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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2018, 01:47:17 pm »

Within range of expectations. Throw it in the average.
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2018, 01:48:44 pm »

I like how a poll that aligns with expectations that pretty much everyone had still triggers a flame war lol
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2018, 01:49:11 pm »

Just take the average of the polls. This poll looks off, but so did the other QPAC poll which had Cruz up by only 3. Average of Cruz + 3 and Cruz + 11 is Cruz + 7.
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2018, 01:49:20 pm »

The poll has Cruz up on O'Rourke 46-44% among Hispanics.

FWIW, Trump lost Texas Hispanics 61-34% in 2016.

Even Gov. Abbott lost them 55-44% in 2014, even while he was winning statewide by 20 points.

Now check out the Texas white vote and repeat.

Abbott carried whites by 47 points in 2014, the exact same amount he's carrying them by in the new Q-poll. We don't know how Cruz did among whites in 2012 because there was no exit polling. But Trump carried them by 43 points in 2016. Cruz is currently carrying them by not much less than that (34 points).

So I'm not sure I see your point...

Cornyn got 74% of the white vote and won whites by 52%. 9% less margin among whites greatly skews the overall margins against Cruz compared to reality by at least 5%. It is in fact much less.
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2018, 01:50:37 pm »

Good! Keep Texas (Atlas) blue!
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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2018, 01:51:17 pm »

I still think that, at the end of the day, result will be somewhere between Cruz+6 and Cruz+8. Enough to give Lyin' Ted a scare, but not enough to actually topple him.
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2018, 01:53:50 pm »


Has your kiddie diddler conceded yet?
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« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2018, 01:56:06 pm »

I still think that, at the end of the day, result will be somewhere between Cruz+6 and Cruz+8. Enough to give Lyin' Ted a scare, but not enough to actually topple him.

A reasonable prediction (and in line with DTC’s point up above)
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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2018, 02:05:24 pm »

Cruz was only ever going down in a D+10 or more environment. We will see if that’s how it is looking come November.
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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2018, 02:07:45 pm »

Likely R, but to claim that O'Rourke's candidacy has been overhyped would be a gross understatement.
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« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2018, 02:10:09 pm »

Tossup.
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« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2018, 02:11:17 pm »

Still Lean Republican, but an upset possible.
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« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2018, 02:12:49 pm »

Yeah, that April poll was probably a bit funky.
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2018, 02:15:37 pm »

Interesting how Cruz +11 equals Safe Republican, but Manchin +12 is a fake poll and it's a tossup race.
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« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2018, 02:24:00 pm »

This race is likely R, it’s not changing. Beto can’t overcome the Republican dominance in Tarrant and surrounding areas. Nothing to see here, move along.
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« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2018, 02:26:30 pm »

Interesting how Cruz +11 equals Safe Republican, but Manchin +12 is a fake poll and it's a tossup race.

WV and TX are both incredibly overhyped races, especially by the so-called “experts”. I think Manchin is actually the safest Romney state Democrat at this point, even safer than you-know-who.
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« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2018, 02:30:49 pm »

Interesting how Cruz +11 equals Safe Republican, but Manchin +12 is a fake poll and it's a tossup race.

WV and TX are both incredibly overhyped races, especially by the so-called “experts”. I think Manchin is actually the safest Romney state Democrat at this point, even safer than you-know-who.

Is TX overhyped by experts though? It seems to be overhyped mostly by the base than by anyone else. Most ''experts'' I've read seem to be a bit on the ''meh'' side and not very convinced that this race will be anywhere close.
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« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2018, 02:35:07 pm »

Terrific Ted is terrific.  News at 11.
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« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2018, 02:52:00 pm »

Toss-up ====> Lean-R
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« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2018, 03:40:18 pm »

Here we go! Teddu Ballgame? gonna wreck Robert “beta”
Teddy Ballgame? I think you mean eduardo
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« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2018, 03:41:30 pm »

This is about what can be expected of Texas. At the end of the day, the votes are just not really there for a Democrat to win. The most that can be realistically hoped for O'Rourke is that maybe he will come somewhat close and build the TX Democratic party for the future. If O'Rourke can come within 5-8 points or so, he can show that maybe in a decade or two Democrats may start having a more realistic chance of winning statewide races in Texas.

This also means that Democratic hopes at winning the Senate basically require pulling an inside straight. Certainly quite possible given the strength of some of the Red State Dem incumbents and likely pickups in AZ and NV, but a tall order.

Interesting how Cruz +11 equals Safe Republican, but Manchin +12 is a fake poll and it's a tossup race.

WV and TX are both incredibly overhyped races, especially by the so-called “experts”. I think Manchin is actually the safest Romney state Democrat at this point, even safer than you-know-who.

It is pretty natural that both WV and TX get overhyped.

TX naturally gets overhyped for 2 reasons:

1) It is a large and populous state. Similar to California or New York, it gets a disproportionated amount of the national attention no matter whether their races are really more competitive than other races.

2) It plays into the narrative about demographic change and hype about that.


WV naturally gets overhyped for 2 reasons:

1) It is close to Washington DC, and part of West Virginia is in the Washington DC media market. That means that national news reporters in DC are more likely to see occasional TV ads (or at least radio) targeted at WV voters. A handful of their co-workers also commute in to DC from the WV panhandle, which is more and more part of the DC exurbs. So as far as red states go, WV is one of the easier places for the national press to relate to. It is more accessible than Nebraska.

2) It plays into the 'racist WV hick' stereotype.
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« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2018, 03:44:32 pm »

Here we go! Teddu Ballgame? gonna wreck Robert “beta”
Teddy Ballgame? I think you mean eduardo

Rafael Eduardo Cruz vs. Robert O'Rourke
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« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2018, 03:47:56 pm »

Here we go! Teddu Ballgame? gonna wreck Robert “beta”
Teddy Ballgame? I think you mean eduardo

Rafael Eduardo Cruz vs. Robert O'Rourke
lol. I wonder who wins latinos
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« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2018, 03:48:56 pm »

Beto is too good of a candidate to lose Latinos...probably
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« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2018, 03:52:27 pm »

Yeah, not too surprised. Rambunctious Rafael is probably safe. It's going to be far easier for Democrats to win back WI/MI/PA than to flip TX, and the "Demographics are destiny" folks really do need to realize that there has always been regional variation in the U.S., and that's not about to go away. Texas whites will continue to vote far to the right of Michigan whites for the foreseeable future.

Likely R, close to Safe R. Tennessee is definitely a better investment for Democrats, at this point.
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