Germany: 14-year old Jewish girl raped & killed by Iraqi asylum seeker

[Tender Branson]

One co-suspect, a Turk, has been arrested. The other suspect, an Iraqi, has fled back to Iraq:

Jewish teen found raped, murdered in Germany

A Jewish teenager was found dead outside of the city of Mainz, Germany Wednesday, after apparently being raped and then strangled, authorities said Thursday.

Two men are suspected by German authorities in the murder-rape case, including a 35-year-old Turkish national and a 20-year-old Iraqi migrant.



While German police have taken the Turkish man into custody, the second suspect remains at large, police said. The Iraqi man, identified as Ali Bashar, had been living in a shelter established for refugees in Wiesbaden’s Erbenheim district, authorities said. The victim’s body was found near train tracks in the Erbenheim district.

The victim, who has been identified as 14-year-old Susanna Maria Feldmann, was found outside of Wiesbaden, north of Mainz. Authorities say the girl was reported missing on May 23rd, after having gone out with friends the night before.

During a press conference Thursday, authorities said the girl’s disappearance was not initially treated as a criminal case, because of the victim’s frequent absences from school.

Based on a study of the body, police said Thursday that Feldmann had been strangled.

Police say Bashar left Germany on June 2nd, along with his parents and five siblings. Bashar had been living in Germany since October 2015.

According to a report by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Bashar and his family had returned to Iraq. German authorities have issued an international arrest warrant for Bashar.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/247135

http://www.dw.com/en/suspect-in-14-year-olds-murder-has-left-germany-police-say/a-44107751

[Tender Branson]

RIP.



Those suspects were certainly one of those scientists or surgeons that Germany so badly needs, according to Merkel ...

[President Johnson]

Danke Merkel!!11!

In all seriousness: A very tragic case and I hope these thugs get the toughest punishment possible. Immigration/Asylum policy is one of the few issues I am not that socially liberal and at odds with Merkel and my own party, the SPD. But it is no secret that a lot of refugees look at women like a piece of meat, which is disgraceful. I'm reading of sexual assault few times a week in the local newspapers, with some really cruel (like the Siegauen rape last year).

Also: Why is a Turk considered an asylum seeker?

[NewYorkExpress]

Danke Merkel!!11!

In all seriousness: A very tragic case and I hope these thugs get the toughest punishment possible. Immigration/Asylum policy is one of the few issues I am not that socially liberal and at odds with Merkel and my own party, the SPD. But it is no secret that a lot of refugees look at women like a piece of meat, which is disgraceful. I'm reading of sexual assault few times a week in the local newspapers, with some really cruel (like the Siegauen rape last year).

Also: Why is a Turk considered an asylum seeker?

I would want to flee from Erdogan too.

[Tender Branson]

Very similar to the recent case of Maria Ladenburger, who got also raped and killed by an - Afghan - asylum seeker (who faked being a juvenile when entering the country in 2015):

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Maria_Ladenburger

Merkel, the blood keeps dripping down your hands ...

[GMantis]

One co-suspect, a Turk, has been arrested. The other suspect, an Iraqi, has fled back to Iraq:

Meaning that he was never a refugee in the first place.

Danke Merkel!!11!

In all seriousness: A very tragic case and I hope these thugs get the toughest punishment possible. Immigration/Asylum policy is one of the few issues I am not that socially liberal and at odds with Merkel and my own party, the SPD. But it is no secret that a lot of refugees look at women like a piece of meat, which is disgraceful. I'm reading of sexual assault few times a week in the local newspapers, with some really cruel (like the Siegauen rape last year).

Also: Why is a Turk considered an asylum seeker?

Probably pretending to be a Syrian.

[dead0man]

They shouldn't have ever let any straight Muslim men between 12 and 60 in.  Women, children, gay dudes and non-Muslims living in Muslim lands, ya know, the people who suffer the most at the hands of these monsters, should be welcome everywhere with open arms (and probably counseling).

[DavidB.]

Infuriating. Poor girl. These animals should be shot.

Germany allowing in hundreds of thousands rabidly violent antisemites to their country - and hundreds of thousands more to other European countries - to make up for its past of rabidly violent antisemitism was such a great idea.

[mvd10]

B-b-but mama Merkel said they'd be wonderful liberal university-educated lawyers and doctors

[President Johnson]

Very similar to the recent case of Maria Ladenburger, who got also raped and killed by an - Afghan - asylum seeker (who faked being a juvenile when entering the country in 2015):

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Maria_Ladenburger

Merkel, the blood keeps dripping down your hands ...

The most tragic thing about this case was that this sick guy already attempted to throw a young woman off a cliff in Greece two years before. Or he actually did, but she had luck and survived and recovered. He even got imprisoned in Greece and later came to Germany after a mass clemency due to massive overcrowded Greek prisons. That just came out later and the two Greek police officers who arrested him in the first place came as witnesses before a German court. That thug should have never been allowed to get in. Another tragic fact is that this wonderful girl was engaged to help refugees.

However, it should be noted though, that asylum seekers from African countries have a far higher crime rate than Syrians for example. Especially sexual assault and rape. But neither case is acceptable, no matter whether Syrian, African or native German.

[Kwal]

It’s darkly amusing how people ignore that people of every race, religion, and gender commit murder just so they can use the death of an innocent girl for their own morally repugnant policy ideas. Reminds me of Hitler and the public listing of victims of Jewish crime.

[Lord Halifax]

It’s darkly amusing how people ignore that people of every race, religion, and gender commit murder just so they can use the death of an innocent girl for their own morally repugnant policy ideas. Reminds me of Hitler and the public listing of victims of Jewish crime.

No one is ignoring that, but the massive overrepresentation of Middle Eastern and African migrants among the perpetrators is a statistical fact.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Absurd on so many levels.

Saying North African refugees are worse than the Syrian or Iraqi refugees who committed these crimes is one thing.

But this is not a race of people.

This is an ideology against women.

Marital rape in some regions of North Africa is perfectly legal.

[Middle-aged Europe]

The Turkish suspect has been released from custody since probable cause could not be established.

[Tender Branson]

The Iraqi suspect has been arrested by Iraqi police after fleeing Germany with fake documents (the airport didn't even notice or were sloppy):

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https://www.thelocal.de/20180608/after-rape-murder-shocks-germany-suspect-captured-in-iraq

[Tender Branson]

It’s darkly amusing how people ignore that people of every race, religion, and gender commit murder just so they can use the death of an innocent girl for their own morally repugnant policy ideas. Reminds me of Hitler and the public listing of victims of Jewish crime.

WTF ?

So you are comparing actual rapists and killers with mostly made-up crimes that the Nazis blamed on Jews ?

That's also a way of ignoring very obvious problems ...

Just accept the fact that there are significant excesses in Germany and all over Europe right now, caused first and foremost by Merkel's call for invasion.

[Middle-aged Europe]

When refugees commit more crimes than other groups of people, it's often a result of a overrepresentation of younger, economically disadvantaged, less-educated men among this particular population.

Statistically speaking, younger, economically disadvantaged, less-educated men is the one group most likely to commit crimes, irrespective of their origin, culture, or religion. And while it's true that the Islamic world exhibits very patriarchal societies, you shouldn't really expect younger, economically disadvantaged, less-educated men of German (or Austrian) ethnicity to hold particularly progressive views on women or gender relations either.

Patriarchal societies are also not restricted to the Islamic world, but are commonplace for pretty much any place outside Western/Northern/Central Europe, North America, and Australia/New Zealand.

Some examples which immediately pop into my mind include:

- The South Korean student during my university days who, from one day to the other, was informed by her father that he had arranged a marriage for her, that she is to terminate her studies immediately, return home, and become a housewife. She obeyed her father even though the psychological impact it had on her wasn't very positive to say the least.

- The widespread problems with gang rape in India has become a prominent example these past few years (then again, India certainly has an overrepresentation of younger, economically disadvantaged, less-educated men among its population as well).

- The Chinese practice of aborting fetuses if they happen to have female gender. Also practiced in a couple of other countres, but China is the most prominent case due to its past one-child policy.

- Until 1981, Italian law made it legal for Italian men to end their wives' lifes. A couple of South American countries had similar laws for a while too. Even after the repeal of these laws, some judges in these countries had been known to continue to grant murderous husbands some leniency in their rulings.

The aforementioned exception for the areas of Western/Northern/Central Europe, North America, and Australia/New Zealand has only been true for the past 40 years or so. Until 1977, West German men technically had to have their husband's permission to hold a job. Until 1997, it was legal for German men to rape their wives. Back then, Bundestag member Horst Seehofer - who nowadays as interior minister likes to claim that he wants to protect us from criminal refugees and Islamic influences - voted against making "rape in marriage" illegal. Islamic culture is crap because pretty much any culture on the planet is crap. Deal with it.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Another point, since the issue of "family unfication" - bringing the close relatives of refugees to Germany - was in the Bundestag this week:

Aside from making people less economically disadvantaged and more educated (which apparently seems to happen, since it was recently reported that a) the number of refugees holding a job in Germany continues to increase and b) the number of crimes committed by refugees has decreased more significantly in 2017 than the crimes committed by German nationals) one way to decrease the number of younger, economically disadvantaged, less-educated, male refugees would be to reunite them with their often female and/or older family members.

The Bundestag voted to restrict family reunification this week. Greens and Left were opposed to this. AfD was also opposed to this, because they found the law not restrictive enough. Then again, they must think that keeping the country's refugee population male, economically disadvantaged, and less-educated is ensuring future electoral gains for the AfD.

Another way to reduce younger, economically disadvantaged, less-educated, male refugees is of course to deport them to their countries of origin... a practice which has been at least tripled in numbers in recent years with regards to North African countries, but sometimes faces criticism when the refugees in question happen to be deported right from the company they're working or the school they're learning.

[DavidB.]

Aside from making people less economically disadvantaged and more educated (which apparently seems to happen, since it was recently reported that a) the number of refugees holding a job in Germany continues to increase and b) the number of crimes committed by refugees has decreased more significantly in 2017 than the crimes committed by German nationals) one way to decrease the number of younger, economically disadvantaged, less-educated, male refugees would be to reunite them with their often female and/or older family members.

Uh, no. That's quite literally not how you decrease the number of young male refugees -- it only reduces their share of the total refugee population.

The way to decrease the number of young male refugees is to deport them.

If they have their family come over, they will have ~4 children, and they will forever remain in Germany. The expectation would be that their children will be integrated in German society about as well as the current descendants of Muslim immigrants in Germany.

Nice perspective for those who hate the German people, like Old Europe, who once said: "There are so many "indigenous" people here who can only be described as human garbage who shouldn't live here let alone be citizens, what does it matter to let hundreds of thousands of Muslims in? They can only raise the quality of our culture, not lower it."

Not a nice perspective for those who do not hate the German people, like me, and, I imagine, most Germans.

Another way to reduce younger, economically disadvantaged, less-educated, male refugees is of course to deport them to their countries of origin... a practice which has been at least tripled in numbers in recent years with regards to North African countries, but sometimes faces criticism when the refugees in question happen to be deported right from the company they're working or the school they're learning.

Not sure why that would be controversial.

Then again, they must think that keeping the country's refugee population male, economically disadvantaged, and less-educated is ensuring future electoral gains for the AfD.

Projection. Your side thinks like this. The other side cares about Germany.

[DavidB.]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who has said on Atlas that he works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

[Tender Branson]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who, as I remember, works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and to Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

They have no decency. According to their thinking, their aim is multiculturalism at all costs, no matter if innocent kids are being raped and murdered by these "welcome policy guests".

Their thinking: Why mind the raping and death of a 14-year old girl (born 60 years after WW2), if Germans were responsible for 6 million deaths ? This is simply the small price the German people have to pay right now, because after all our economy needs millions of new surgeons and scientists. And if it turns out that they are not surgeons and scientists once they are here, we will turn them into surgeons and scientists, with billions of hard-earned taxpayer money from German citizens. They can easily be milked, because of all the war-crimes their ancestors have committed. They shouldn't be so whiny about their tax money being spent: It's only compensation money that these new immigrants are entitled to ... and so on.

After all, they are their future voters - whereas their German, Dutch, Swedish etc. voters are becoming fewer and fewer ...

[DavidB.]

Their grandfathers also engaged in fact-free, ideologically driven, rigorous social engineering with populations. It's just that this time, we Jews (those of us who are left) are "merely" collateral damage instead of the main victims.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who, as I remember, works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and to Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

They have no decency. According to their thinking, their aim is multiculturalism at all costs, no matter if innocent kids are being raped and murdered by these "welcome policy guests".

Their thinking: Why mind the raping and death of a 14-year old girl (born 60 years after WW2), if Germans were responsible for 6 million deaths ? This is simply the small price the German people have to pay right now, because after all our economy needs millions of new surgeons and scientists. And if it turns out that they are not surgeons and scientists once they are here, we will turn them into surgeons and scientists, with billions of hard-earned taxpayer money from German citizens. They can easily be milked, because of all the war-crimes their ancestors have committed. They shouldn't be so whiny about their tax money being spent: It's only compensation money that these new immigrants are entitled to ... and so on.

After all, they are their future voters - whereas their German, Dutch, Swedish etc. voters are becoming fewer and fewer ...

Seriously, what the actual  is wrong with you? You’re exploring the death of an innocent to stigmatize a minority group while completely ignoring all facts or basic human decency. Yes, immigrants commit crimes. That doesn’t mean that everyone who supports immigration is evil, and is deplorable to use the death of an innocent who you honestly don’t give a sh**t about just to harm other people.

[Tender Branson]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who, as I remember, works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and to Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

They have no decency. According to their thinking, their aim is multiculturalism at all costs, no matter if innocent kids are being raped and murdered by these "welcome policy guests".

Their thinking: Why mind the raping and death of a 14-year old girl (born 60 years after WW2), if Germans were responsible for 6 million deaths ? This is simply the small price the German people have to pay right now, because after all our economy needs millions of new surgeons and scientists. And if it turns out that they are not surgeons and scientists once they are here, we will turn them into surgeons and scientists, with billions of hard-earned taxpayer money from German citizens. They can easily be milked, because of all the war-crimes their ancestors have committed. They shouldn't be so whiny about their tax money being spent: It's only compensation money that these new immigrants are entitled to ... and so on.

After all, they are their future voters - whereas their German, Dutch, Swedish etc. voters are becoming fewer and fewer ...

Seriously, what the actual  is wrong with you? You’re exploring the death of an innocent to stigmatize a minority group while completely ignoring all facts or basic human decency. Yes, immigrants commit crimes. That doesn’t mean that everyone who supports immigration is evil, and is deplorable to use the death of an innocent who you honestly don’t give a sh**t about just to harm other people.

Your post doesn't make any sense. I always take the facts seriously. And the facts are not lying: uncontrolled immigration from Arab and African countries in recent years has led to a significant increase in crimes here that would have otherwise not happened. And I'm not exploiting the girls' deaths either. If anything, it was the perpetrators who exploited the girls. Don't try to reverse things.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Bad hambres.