Germany: 14-year old Jewish girl raped & killed by Iraqi asylum seeker

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who, as I remember, works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and to Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

They have no decency. According to their thinking, their aim is multiculturalism at all costs, no matter if innocent kids are being raped and murdered by these "welcome policy guests".

Their thinking: Why mind the raping and death of a 14-year old girl (born 60 years after WW2), if Germans were responsible for 6 million deaths ? This is simply the small price the German people have to pay right now, because after all our economy needs millions of new surgeons and scientists. And if it turns out that they are not surgeons and scientists once they are here, we will turn them into surgeons and scientists, with billions of hard-earned taxpayer money from German citizens. They can easily be milked, because of all the war-crimes their ancestors have committed. They shouldn't be so whiny about their tax money being spent: It's only compensation money that these new immigrants are entitled to ... and so on.

After all, they are their future voters - whereas their German, Dutch, Swedish etc. voters are becoming fewer and fewer ...

Seriously, what the actual  is wrong with you? You’re exploring the death of an innocent to stigmatize a minority group while completely ignoring all facts or basic human decency. Yes, immigrants commit crimes. That doesn’t mean that everyone who supports immigration is evil, and is deplorable to use the death of an innocent who you honestly don’t give a sh**t about just to harm other people.

I always take the facts seriously. And the facts are not lying: uncontrolled immigration from Arab and African countries in recent years has led to a significant increase in crimes here that would have otherwise not happened.

Your post doesn't make any sense. And I'm not exploiting the girls' deaths either. If anything, it was the perpetrators who exploited the girls. Don't try to reverse things.

Do you have any evidence that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than demographically similar natives? At all? Or would you just like to use a victim as a bludgeon against those you hate?

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

This thread reeks with racism and gaslighting, but what else can we expect from an anonymous online forum. Sad to see so many people exploiting a girl's murder to push their bigotry

[Tender Branson]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who, as I remember, works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and to Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

They have no decency. According to their thinking, their aim is multiculturalism at all costs, no matter if innocent kids are being raped and murdered by these "welcome policy guests".

Their thinking: Why mind the raping and death of a 14-year old girl (born 60 years after WW2), if Germans were responsible for 6 million deaths ? This is simply the small price the German people have to pay right now, because after all our economy needs millions of new surgeons and scientists. And if it turns out that they are not surgeons and scientists once they are here, we will turn them into surgeons and scientists, with billions of hard-earned taxpayer money from German citizens. They can easily be milked, because of all the war-crimes their ancestors have committed. They shouldn't be so whiny about their tax money being spent: It's only compensation money that these new immigrants are entitled to ... and so on.

After all, they are their future voters - whereas their German, Dutch, Swedish etc. voters are becoming fewer and fewer ...

Seriously, what the actual  is wrong with you? You’re exploring the death of an innocent to stigmatize a minority group while completely ignoring all facts or basic human decency. Yes, immigrants commit crimes. That doesn’t mean that everyone who supports immigration is evil, and is deplorable to use the death of an innocent who you honestly don’t give a sh**t about just to harm other people.

I always take the facts seriously. And the facts are not lying: uncontrolled immigration from Arab and African countries in recent years has led to a significant increase in crimes here that would have otherwise not happened.

Your post doesn't make any sense. And I'm not exploiting the girls' deaths either. If anything, it was the perpetrators who exploited the girls. Don't try to reverse things.

Do you have any evidence that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than demographically similar natives? At all? Or would you just like to use a victim as a bludgeon against those you hate?

I have literally posted it a 1000 times on here over the past few years that immigrants (especially those from the Arab and African regions) have significantly higher crime rates than locals.

It is a fact. It is a fact that can be read in every statistics report from the police agencies in every European country.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who, as I remember, works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and to Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

They have no decency. According to their thinking, their aim is multiculturalism at all costs, no matter if innocent kids are being raped and murdered by these "welcome policy guests".

Their thinking: Why mind the raping and death of a 14-year old girl (born 60 years after WW2), if Germans were responsible for 6 million deaths ? This is simply the small price the German people have to pay right now, because after all our economy needs millions of new surgeons and scientists. And if it turns out that they are not surgeons and scientists once they are here, we will turn them into surgeons and scientists, with billions of hard-earned taxpayer money from German citizens. They can easily be milked, because of all the war-crimes their ancestors have committed. They shouldn't be so whiny about their tax money being spent: It's only compensation money that these new immigrants are entitled to ... and so on.

After all, they are their future voters - whereas their German, Dutch, Swedish etc. voters are becoming fewer and fewer ...

Seriously, what the actual  is wrong with you? You’re exploring the death of an innocent to stigmatize a minority group while completely ignoring all facts or basic human decency. Yes, immigrants commit crimes. That doesn’t mean that everyone who supports immigration is evil, and is deplorable to use the death of an innocent who you honestly don’t give a sh**t about just to harm other people.

I always take the facts seriously. And the facts are not lying: uncontrolled immigration from Arab and African countries in recent years has led to a significant increase in crimes here that would have otherwise not happened.

Your post doesn't make any sense. And I'm not exploiting the girls' deaths either. If anything, it was the perpetrators who exploited the girls. Don't try to reverse things.

Do you have any evidence that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than demographically similar natives? At all? Or would you just like to use a victim as a bludgeon against those you hate?

I have literally posted it a 1000 times on here over the past few years that immigrants (especially those from the Arab and African regions) have significantly higher crime rates than locals.

It is a fact. It is a fact that can be read in every statistics report from the police agencies in every European country.

The only sort of “fact” that is is alternate.

In most reputable studies, it has been shown that the crime rates of refugees are not significantly higher than native Germans.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/refugees-crime-rumors/480171/

http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugees-have-not-increased-crime-rate-in-germany/a-18848890

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/11/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-germany-now-riddled-crime-thanks/

Some sources suggest a lower crime rate, and some suggest a moderately higher crime rate. The bulk of the actual evidence is that refugees have a pretty similar crime rate. Your racism won’t change actual facts.

[DavidB.]

This thread reeks with racism

Racism by "refugees" like the perpetrators of this vicious attack, who view European women as objects, yes.

Sad to see so many people exploiting a girl's murder to push their bigotry

Would you say this if the girl were in an American school, if she was shot by a gun owner, and if people would demand a change in gun policies?

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

This thread reeks with racism

Racism by "refugees" like the perpetrators of this vicious attack, who view European women as objects, yes.

Sad to see so many people exploiting a girl's murder to push their bigotry

Would you say this if the girl were in an American school, if she was shot by a gun owner, and if people would demand a change in gun policies?

There’s a lot more evidence for guns increasing crime rates than immigrants.

[dead0man]

There’s a lot more evidence for guns increasing crime rates than immigrants.

no

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

There’s a lot more evidence for guns increasing crime rates than immigrants.

no

Yes

[dead0man]

There’s a lot more evidence for guns increasing crime rates than immigrants.

no

Yes

the number of guns in America has skyrocketed since the early 90s, yet crime rates have fallen a lot.

How would the existence of a gun or not change crime?  Do you really think there are normal peolpe out there (that could purchase a gun the normal way) that would be out there doing crime if they had a gun handy?

[Tender Branson]

So, a minute of silence was held by the AfD in the German parliament for the slain girl - which was interrupted by the Green Claudia Roth and by chants from the other parties.

Newspapers wrote: "AfD provokes by holding a minute of silence in parliament."

https://rtlnext.rtl.de/cms/afd-abgeordneter-provoziert-im-bundestag-mit-schweigeminute-fuer-susanna-4174482.html

What a shame.

What if the - more fitting - headline would be:

"Minute of silence for raped and slain Jewish girl interrupted in the German parliament by heartless Green politicians."

Think about it ... the Greens and their naive fundie partners have come a long way.

[Tender Branson]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who, as I remember, works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and to Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

They have no decency. According to their thinking, their aim is multiculturalism at all costs, no matter if innocent kids are being raped and murdered by these "welcome policy guests".

Their thinking: Why mind the raping and death of a 14-year old girl (born 60 years after WW2), if Germans were responsible for 6 million deaths ? This is simply the small price the German people have to pay right now, because after all our economy needs millions of new surgeons and scientists. And if it turns out that they are not surgeons and scientists once they are here, we will turn them into surgeons and scientists, with billions of hard-earned taxpayer money from German citizens. They can easily be milked, because of all the war-crimes their ancestors have committed. They shouldn't be so whiny about their tax money being spent: It's only compensation money that these new immigrants are entitled to ... and so on.

After all, they are their future voters - whereas their German, Dutch, Swedish etc. voters are becoming fewer and fewer ...

Seriously, what the actual  is wrong with you? You’re exploring the death of an innocent to stigmatize a minority group while completely ignoring all facts or basic human decency. Yes, immigrants commit crimes. That doesn’t mean that everyone who supports immigration is evil, and is deplorable to use the death of an innocent who you honestly don’t give a sh**t about just to harm other people.

I always take the facts seriously. And the facts are not lying: uncontrolled immigration from Arab and African countries in recent years has led to a significant increase in crimes here that would have otherwise not happened.

Your post doesn't make any sense. And I'm not exploiting the girls' deaths either. If anything, it was the perpetrators who exploited the girls. Don't try to reverse things.

Do you have any evidence that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than demographically similar natives? At all? Or would you just like to use a victim as a bludgeon against those you hate?

I have literally posted it a 1000 times on here over the past few years that immigrants (especially those from the Arab and African regions) have significantly higher crime rates than locals.

It is a fact. It is a fact that can be read in every statistics report from the police agencies in every European country.

The only sort of “fact” that is is alternate.

In most reputable studies, it has been shown that the crime rates of refugees are not significantly higher than native Germans.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/refugees-crime-rumors/480171/

http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugees-have-not-increased-crime-rate-in-germany/a-18848890

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/11/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-germany-now-riddled-crime-thanks/

Some sources suggest a lower crime rate, and some suggest a moderately higher crime rate. The bulk of the actual evidence is that refugees have a pretty similar crime rate. Your racism won’t change actual facts.

Bullsh*t.

First, you post articles from 2014-2016 which use crime data before the recent immigration invasion even started.

In other words, your articles are useless.

Recent crime reports from Sweden, Germany, Austria etc. all show that there was a significant spike in sexual crimes such as rapes, serious bodily injury, drug offences after the start of the immigrant invasion in late 2015. And of course welfare abuse, with a lot of money being wasted on these so-called "engineers" and "surgeons".

There's no point in denying that. It happened. And if these people didn't come, it would not have happened.

[Tender Branson]

The 20-year old perpetrator has confessed to the crime, according to Iraqi police who arrested him.

According to them, he said he wanted sex with her (which she refused). He then raped her repeatedly the whole night and then strangled her with a tree branch and dumped her body next to railway tracks. He then fled to Iraq by plane from the Düsseldorf airport, using fake names (which the airport workers didn't even check). So, he left the country the way he came in: by fake name and fake documents. A person, rotten from the beginning.

Because he would be hanged in Iraq for his crime, Germany will issue an extradition warrant to put him on trial there.

[EPG]

One very simple question is how offended you were when Europeans, Christians, Jews, etc. committed acts of violence and collective punishment against Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc., systemically and at large scale in the last 15 years.

If the answer is "gave no f***s", this is merely racism.

[President Johnson]

One very simple question is how offended you were when Europeans, Christians, Jews, etc. committed acts of violence and collective punishment against Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc., systemically and at large scale in the last 15 years.

If the answer is "gave no f***s", this is merely racism.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[EPG]

One very simple question is how offended you were when Europeans, Christians, Jews, etc. committed acts of violence and collective punishment against Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc., systemically and at large scale in the last 15 years.

If the answer is "gave no f***s", this is merely racism.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Correct. Being angry about only one wrong, however, may make you wrong. It is exactly equivalent in that case to a false argument, if we pretend that Europeans and Americans are intrinsically better societies because we don't go to Iraq and kill Iraqis for no reason (which we did, broadly defining America and Europe).

[President Johnson]

According to Tagesschau, the suspect from Iraq will soon (or has already) extradite him back to Germany for a trial.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

#LockHimUp

[dead0man]

One very simple question is how offended you were when Europeans, Christians, Jews, etc. committed acts of violence and collective punishment against Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc., systemically and at large scale in the last 15 years.

If the answer is "gave no f***s", this is merely racism.

so we're supposed to be ok with rape and murder because our govts sometimes suck?  otherwise, we're racists?  That's moronic.

Hating America/the West makes people stupid....or is it the other way around?

[DavidB.]

So, a minute of silence was held by the AfD in the German parliament for the slain girl - which was interrupted by the Green Claudia Roth and by chants from the other parties.

Newspapers wrote: "AfD provokes by holding a minute of silence in parliament."

https://rtlnext.rtl.de/cms/afd-abgeordneter-provoziert-im-bundestag-mit-schweigeminute-fuer-susanna-4174482.html

What a shame.

What if the - more fitting - headline would be:

"Minute of silence for raped and slain Jewish girl interrupted in the German parliament by heartless Green politicians."

Think about it ... the Greens and their naive fundie partners have come a long way.

The German left is completely evil.

One very simple question is how offended you were when Europeans, Christians, Jews, etc. committed acts of violence and collective punishment against Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc., systemically and at large scale in the last 15 years.

Today on Things That Never Happened...

Because he would be hanged in Iraq for his crime, Germany will issue an extradition warrant to put him on trial there.

I'd rather see him hanged, but the German state will now literally make an effort to keep him alive after killing a German citizen. This world is so messed up.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Also love how Old Europe goes on another pro-immigration tirade in a thread on a Jewish girl who's been raped and killed by illegal immigrants: indeed, we are living in times where facts don't seem to matter anymore...

People like Old Europe, who, as I remember, works for a pro-immigration organization or party, are literally responsible for completely preventable tragedies like these and for the damage that is being done, for the crimes that are being inflicted on Germany and to Europe in general. You should feel ashamed.

They have no decency. According to their thinking, their aim is multiculturalism at all costs, no matter if innocent kids are being raped and murdered by these "welcome policy guests".

Their thinking: Why mind the raping and death of a 14-year old girl (born 60 years after WW2), if Germans were responsible for 6 million deaths ? This is simply the small price the German people have to pay right now, because after all our economy needs millions of new surgeons and scientists. And if it turns out that they are not surgeons and scientists once they are here, we will turn them into surgeons and scientists, with billions of hard-earned taxpayer money from German citizens. They can easily be milked, because of all the war-crimes their ancestors have committed. They shouldn't be so whiny about their tax money being spent: It's only compensation money that these new immigrants are entitled to ... and so on.

After all, they are their future voters - whereas their German, Dutch, Swedish etc. voters are becoming fewer and fewer ...

Seriously, what the actual  is wrong with you? You’re exploring the death of an innocent to stigmatize a minority group while completely ignoring all facts or basic human decency. Yes, immigrants commit crimes. That doesn’t mean that everyone who supports immigration is evil, and is deplorable to use the death of an innocent who you honestly don’t give a sh**t about just to harm other people.

I always take the facts seriously. And the facts are not lying: uncontrolled immigration from Arab and African countries in recent years has led to a significant increase in crimes here that would have otherwise not happened.

Your post doesn't make any sense. And I'm not exploiting the girls' deaths either. If anything, it was the perpetrators who exploited the girls. Don't try to reverse things.

Do you have any evidence that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than demographically similar natives? At all? Or would you just like to use a victim as a bludgeon against those you hate?

I have literally posted it a 1000 times on here over the past few years that immigrants (especially those from the Arab and African regions) have significantly higher crime rates than locals.

It is a fact. It is a fact that can be read in every statistics report from the police agencies in every European country.

The only sort of “fact” that is is alternate.

In most reputable studies, it has been shown that the crime rates of refugees are not significantly higher than native Germans.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/refugees-crime-rumors/480171/

http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugees-have-not-increased-crime-rate-in-germany/a-18848890

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/11/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-germany-now-riddled-crime-thanks/

Some sources suggest a lower crime rate, and some suggest a moderately higher crime rate. The bulk of the actual evidence is that refugees have a pretty similar crime rate. Your racism won’t change actual facts.

Bullsh*t.

First, you post articles from 2014-2016 which use crime data before the recent immigration invasion even started.

In other words, your articles are useless.

Recent crime reports from Sweden, Germany, Austria etc. all show that there was a significant spike in sexual crimes such as rapes, serious bodily injury, drug offences after the start of the immigrant invasion in late 2015. And of course welfare abuse, with a lot of money being wasted on these so-called "engineers" and "surgeons".

There's no point in denying that. It happened. And if these people didn't come, it would not have happened.

Germany got plenty of Muslim immigrants before last year, so that bullsh**t excuse is false. Second, random unsourced claims about those people don’t show you in a good light.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

So, a minute of silence was held by the AfD in the German parliament for the slain girl - which was interrupted by the Green Claudia Roth and by chants from the other parties.

Newspapers wrote: "AfD provokes by holding a minute of silence in parliament."

https://rtlnext.rtl.de/cms/afd-abgeordneter-provoziert-im-bundestag-mit-schweigeminute-fuer-susanna-4174482.html

What a shame.

What if the - more fitting - headline would be:

"Minute of silence for raped and slain Jewish girl interrupted in the German parliament by heartless Green politicians."

Think about it ... the Greens and their naive fundie partners have come a long way.

The German left is completely evil.

One very simple question is how offended you were when Europeans, Christians, Jews, etc. committed acts of violence and collective punishment against Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc., systemically and at large scale in the last 15 years.

Today on Things That Never Happened...

Because he would be hanged in Iraq for his crime, Germany will issue an extradition warrant to put him on trial there.

I'd rather see him hanged, but the German state will now literally make an effort to keep him alive after killing a German citizen. This world is so messed up.

Is holding a minute of silence for a murder victim a normal custom? Or is it an attempt to stir up hatred?

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

One very simple question is how offended you were when Europeans, Christians, Jews, etc. committed acts of violence and collective punishment against Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc., systemically and at large scale in the last 15 years.

If the answer is "gave no f***s", this is merely racism.

so we're supposed to be ok with rape and murder because our govts sometimes suck?  otherwise, we're racists?  That's moronic.

Hating America/the West makes people stupid....or is it the other way around?

If you only get offended when white people and don’t give a sh**t when non-white people die, you are racist. That’s not arguable.

[DavidB.]

Some people are still convinced that shouting racist at their opponents will win them the discussion. But this bullying tactic doesn't work anymore in the ~current year~.

Protecting our countries is common sense and the right thing to do. Whether or not I'll be considered a racist by leftists for advocating for what is right, I don't particularly care.

[Helsinkian]

Do you have any evidence that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than demographically similar natives? At all? Or would you just like to use a victim as a bludgeon against those you hate?

To give a quick example from my country: in 2016, in 20 percent of all sexual crimes the suspect was a foreigner; if you count only the cases where the police has a suspect then the number rises to 29 percent. In 2015 the proportion of foreign suspects had been around 10 percent; in the autumn of that year Finland experienced the largest influx of asylum seekers ever.

And this is only counting foreign citizens, not Finnish citizens with a foreign background (as the government does not keep statistics on ethnicity). The number of foreign citizens in Finland is no more than a few percent of the population.

The source is the Finnish public broadcaster YLE, using police statistics (in Finnish).

[DavidB.]

Do you have any evidence that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than demographically similar natives? At all? Or would you just like to use a victim as a bludgeon against those you hate?

Dutch highbrow liberal newspaper NRC last year fact-checked Geert Wilders' statement that 60% of the imprisoned population had a migration background and 60% on the most elementary type of welfare benefits had a migration background. Based on Central Statistics Agency data, NRC concluded that Wilders was right on both counts (only 36% of prison inmates in 2015 had a Dutch background, 62% had a migration background, 2% unknown). See also the Central Statistics Agency data.