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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: June 11, 2018, 11:33:10 PM »

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 12:19:57 AM »

I've attended discussions at philosophy forums where this is either the topic or it's brought up.  I would tell you more about these discussions but I don't know the words to describe them.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 12:40:01 AM »

I've attended discussions at philosophy forums where this is either the topic or it's brought up.  I would tell you more about these discussions but I don't know the words to describe them.

While this was obviously a 'joke' it was also along the lines of the story of the final exam (whether this story is real or not) of an essay question of 'describe risk.'

And one student simply wrote "This" and got a A.

So, in this case, it's hard to know the words because there are so many different ideas to consider all at once. 

I checked all the comments on the meetings that I attended and I see I never commented on language.  This is one of the meetings but I didn't attend it. however this was one of the comments:

Topics that were discussed at the meeting were:
1. What is thinking? Do animals think? Does AI that plays "Go" think?
2. Is there a limit to language to understand reality?
3. Is math the most capable "language", because it is devoid of connotation and feeling?
4. Does sounds of words affect thinking? Related: word connotations.
5. Are there ideas that we hold, but inexpressible by language? Can we use music as "language" to express those ideas?
6. Lifting one's hand does not require language, but does it require thinking?
7. Idoms in language, and resulting failure in communication.

https://www.meetup.com/ShyPhilosophers/events/247482933/

I have discussed language and its limits at other meetings. So, to begin at the start,  one of the discussions I like to get into is over 'do people just think with language (words)' and I always point out 'if humans can only think with words/language, how did they come up with words/language in the first place?'

This sometimes then goes into 'could cave paintings have been extremely significant in the development of language?'

Another discussion it leads in to is 'does language allow for more complex ideas?'
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 09:27:04 AM »

when u run out of words lmao
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 01:57:25 PM »


ya i always am running out of words there needs 2 be morar
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2018, 12:23:20 PM »


ya i always am running out of words there needs 2 be morar

Lame.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2018, 06:32:52 AM »

Language is not limiting unless you are uneducated.

When you visit a poor country, it's a real eye opener to see impoverishment embedded in a culture through poor education.

What is limiting is fear. Most human cultural development occurs when fear is removed.

But i have rarely found language to be limiting.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2018, 06:09:39 PM »

Language is something that is inate within the human spieces. I hardly think most people have even said more than 1% of all objects, actions, and descriptions within the world that are enticed within the English language itself.  The limiting factor of language isn't really our capacity per se, bit it is rather our exposure to words that we encounter on a daily basis.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2018, 01:05:26 AM »

I've attended discussions at philosophy forums where this is either the topic or it's brought up.  I would tell you more about these discussions but I don't know the words to describe them.

i think the word your looking for is "ironic"
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2018, 07:15:25 AM »

Isn't English one of the broadest languages with the biggest vocabulary because it's always stealing words from other languages?
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2018, 05:04:23 PM »

Isn't English one of the broadest languages with the biggest vocabulary because it's always stealing words from other languages?
No, those ~1 million of words in English are more caused by the English inclination for nominalism.
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