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H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2018, 12:54:32 AM »

OK, I found a voté-by-vote summary here. The FPV-PJ (not sure how that differs from the normal Justicialistas but they’re listed separately on the site) voted 54-11 in favor, Cambiemos overall voted 65-42 against. Most of the yes votes within Cambiemos came from the UCR, which was the only member of the coalition to vote in favor overall. Argentina Federal, a thing that I do not understand, voted against it overall. Please help, I just want to see my family.

FPV-PJ are often more affiliated with FpV/the Kirchners, and are may be  left wing than "independent" peronistas
Argentina Federal is a Senate group formed by Pichetto (the former leader of PJ-FPV in the Senate) and senators that are allied to/representatives of peripheral peronist governors, after expelling Cristina from this caucus

There's no Argentina Federal caucus in Diputados but Ámbito uses this term to refer to a similar group in the lower chamber (non-kirchnerista/non-massista peronistas, in this case including the Córdoba non-kirchnerista peronistas)



OK, thanks. Is that why I’ve seen kirchneristas and peronistas talked about separately?
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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2018, 05:35:57 AM »

Because there are some peronistas that have never been all that close to the Kirchners, or have split from their wing

Examples include Sergio Massa, Alberto Fernández,Felipe Solá and several other members of Frente Renovador (who mostly left FpV and allies after the 2008 farm crisis, and have all been extremely critical of Cridtina/FpV and it's successors) , the Rodriguez Saa's wing of the San Juan Provinces PJ (until shortly before the 2017 election (until shortly before the 2017 elections, who also were very open enemies of Kirchnerismo), Eduardo and Chiche Duhalde (who basically got Nestor Kirchner elected but fought for the control of the PJ since very early on after the 2003 election), the Schiaretti-De la Sota Córdoba province PJ,  former Senate Leader Pichetto and many governors (who were allies of the Kirchners until the 2015 or 2017 elections, when they split mostly to get to a middle ground between the new national government and their former positions)

There's also a number of Kirchneristas from non-peronista origins
In 2006 the FpV formed an alliance of several groups from different origins, most of them from centrist to left-wing parties.
Radicales K came from the UCR party, some like former VP Cobos and Santiago governor Gerardo Zamora supported the Kirchner since the shortly after the the formation of the Concertación. Most Radicales K, outside of a few governors left the Coalition between 2008 and 2010
And smaller wing came from left wing parties and centered at first around Martin Sabatella and his Nuevo Encuentro party
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