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« on: June 15, 2018, 08:20:12 PM »

Let's say Hillary narrowly won the 2008 Democratic primary.

1.) In what states could/should/would she have made realistic improvements during the primary compared with the real results?

2.) Whom would she have chosen as her running mate? (Obama had already pointed out several times that he would not be available for the vice-presidency.)

3.) What position/office would Hillary have invested him with? (If any.)



1.) I think Virginia and Maryland. I was a bit astonished when I discovered that she preformed a bit better in MD than in VA. But also New Mexico.

2.) Probably Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich or Phil Bredesen.

3.) U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2018, 06:35:29 PM »

1. Maine, Missouri, Connecticut, Vermont, North Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and Delaware
2. Evan Bayh.
3. Attorney General if any, but I suspect he’d refuse and run for Governor in 2010.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2018, 10:37:17 PM »

Mark Warner, no doubt, she was close to. Kaine would of replaced Warner, in Senate😀
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 08:23:53 AM »

The election would be a lot closer.  The reason why Obama was able to do so well was because he turned out massive numbers of liberals and especially minorities, even as he cut out the WWC from his coalition.  Hillary would not nearly have so much strength.  In fact, McCain might very well keep Virginia, Nevada, and Florida, not to mention North Carolina and Indiana and Ohio (he won by massive turnout in Cuyahoga County), and he would have been able to paint her as corrupt, not something he could do to Obama. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2018, 10:16:37 PM »

If the economic crash doesn't happen, McCain wins.

If it does, Hillary wins a close election, losing every tossup state Obama carried except for Ohio and Florida.

As for what position Obama would be offered, I'd guess, either Attorney General or Housing and Urban Development. I think Obama would accept Attorney General (or State, or Homeland Security), but decline anything else, for much the same reasons as to why Hillary accepted State when Obama won in 2008 IRL.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2018, 10:27:30 AM »

The election would be a lot closer.  The reason why Obama was able to do so well was because he turned out massive numbers of liberals and especially minorities, even as he cut out the WWC from his coalition.  Hillary would not nearly have so much strength.  In fact, McCain might very well keep Virginia, Nevada, and Florida, not to mention North Carolina and Indiana and Ohio (he won by massive turnout in Cuyahoga County), and he would have been able to paint her as corrupt, not something he could do to Obama. 

He didn't though: he actually did pretty well with WWC in 2008 (he wouldn't have been able to win IN or win WI, PA, IA, and MI by double digits otherwise), and while he lost ground compared to Kerry in Appalachia and the South, he more than made up for it in the Midwest and Northeast. The Hillary campaign was built on the assumption that you could, and look what happened.
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