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Question: Would Sanders have done better or worse than Clinton in Virginia in 2016?
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« on: June 17, 2018, 06:41:01 PM »
Would Bernie Sanders have done better or worse than Hillary Clinton in the state of Virginia in 2016?
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2018, 07:37:40 PM »
Bernie would either win Virginia by 1% or less. Same with Trump
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2018, 08:48:33 PM »
Worse for a few reasons


A. He probably wouldnt pick Tim Kaine

B. Virginia hates Bernie for some reason
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2018, 08:57:31 PM »
Worse.  NOVA voters may be liberal, but they're latte liberals, not socialists.  

If Bernie wins Virginia, it's because he does better among rural, youth, and minority voters than Clinton did to mitigate his losses in NOVA, Henrico County, and Hampton Roads.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2018, 09:01:32 PM »
Worse, Bernie was a poor fit for Virginia due to it being really conservative in the rural areas. VA really likes interventionists and not isolationism.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2018, 11:00:35 PM »
Worse.  Trump would have won it.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2018, 11:40:01 PM »
Quote from: Del Tachi on June 17, 2018, 11:00:35 PM
Worse.  Trump would have won it.

This.

Given the atmosphere 2016 was, Trump probably would've created the 2004 map minus New Mexico and possibly Colorado.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2018, 01:30:24 AM »
It would have been closer but Nova was trending democratic no matter what it just depends on how much when comparing Sanders and Clinton's performance there's no way Trump would have won the state I'd say Sanders carries it by around 2-3%. Garry Johnson's Performance definitely increases a bit
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2018, 01:17:35 PM »
Berni Sanders probably would not have elected Vice President Tіm Kaine, which would reduce his chances of winning in Virginia. Probably Trump in this state
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2018, 03:29:15 PM »
Same as in real life.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2018, 08:13:06 PM »
Worse. I don't think he would have lost it but it probably would have been more of a tossup as election day approached, as opposed to it being a probable win for Clinton in 2016, even after the Comey incident.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2018, 05:06:41 PM »
Very slightly worse.  NOVA isn't exactly the (minority of) suburbs of Dallas that thought Trump was just too unbecoming; it would support any Democrat.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2018, 10:12:31 PM »
Quote from: Del Tachi on June 17, 2018, 11:00:35 PM
Worse.  Trump would have won it.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2018, 11:52:12 PM »
About the same. Worse in Nova and some black areas around hamptom roads, but he would do substantially better in VA 9th, 6th, 5th etc. enough to even it out.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2018, 12:24:57 AM »
It would've been Sanders 47-45 or something. Yes, beloved NoVA would still vote for him over Trump, but to RINO Tom's chagrin(?), the margin would be reduced. He'd still win Fairfax, Loudoun, and PWC by Obama margins. This is good, but not nearly as dominating as HRC.

He'd probably do worse than Obama but better than Clinton in the boonies, sure. The actual problem for him is the Hampton Roads area. I do not see Bernie's message reaching well to pretty much any demographic there. Hillary did not do particularly well here obviously, but surprisingly not as poorly as you may expect. Black turnout fell, but I suspect it would've fallen even harder with Bernie Sanders on the ballot instead.
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2018, 09:36:05 PM »
Pretty much the same-he'd do worse there relatively to the nation but the nation would be more Democratic than irl so the two factors would roughly cancel each other out.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2018, 01:32:57 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2018, 02:05:14 PM »
« Edited: June 30, 2018, 02:13:35 PM by BernieBro »
Sanders would have won it.
Yes, he would have done slightly worse but really no difference.

It's Florida he would have crashed in, because of his status as a "socialist", Cubans would have trended to trump.
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2018, 06:56:09 PM »
Worse in NoVa and better in most of the rest of the state.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2018, 11:47:17 AM »
Quote from: BernieBro on June 30, 2018, 02:05:14 PM
Sanders would have won it.
Yes, he would have done slightly worse but really no difference.

It's Florida he would have crashed in, because of his status as a "socialist", Cubans would have trended to trump.
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2018, 01:07:46 PM »
Quote from: dw93 on July 03, 2018, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: BernieBro on June 30, 2018, 02:05:14 PM
Sanders would have won it.
Yes, he would have done slightly worse but really no difference.

It's Florida he would have crashed in, because of his status as a "socialist", Cubans would have trended to trump.
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2018, 04:41:25 PM »
He Probably would have won by about 3%.
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2018, 08:40:08 PM »
Quote from: BernieBro on June 30, 2018, 02:05:14 PM
Sanders would have won it.
Yes, he would have done slightly worse but really no difference.

It's Florida he would have crashed in, because of his status as a "socialist", Cubans would have trended to trump.

They did in real life...
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2018, 05:34:21 PM »
Read that as West Virginia and voted better.

Worse, obviously. No question. I still think he would've won, though.
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2018, 08:52:25 AM »
Quote from: BenBurch on July 03, 2018, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: BernieBro on June 30, 2018, 02:05:14 PM
Sanders would have won it.
Yes, he would have done slightly worse but really no difference.

It's Florida he would have crashed in, because of his status as a "socialist", Cubans would have trended to trump.

They did in real life...
No they didn't. They still voted Republican overwhelmingly but they trended to Hillary.
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