Italian Elections and Politics 2022 - Our Time to Schlein

[Mike88]

I'm not sure how it is in Italy, but doesn't it surpass the statute of limitations? If the crime was committed while he was PM, of course.

[FrancoAgo]

I read a few on line , the "crime" it's for a 2022 operation, probably they sell nothing, just tried

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

I'm not sure how it is in Italy, but doesn't it surpass the statute of limitations? If the crime was committed while he was PM, of course.

D'Alema was last President of the Council before I was born and last had a ministerial job fifteen years ago, I should have been clearer but this happened while he was a private citizen in 2022.

[MRCVzla]

Roberto Speranza has announced today the dissolution of Articolo Uno within PD. A political association called "Compagno è il mondo" (Partner is the World) will custody the "political cultural ideal" of Art.1 in PD.
https://twitter.com/ultimora_pol/status/1667554187612176384
https://twitter.com/ultimora_pol/status/1667586831905443843

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Articolo 1 was created in response to Renzi's triangulation antics and never really had a purpose from 2019 on (indeed almost always ran in the same list as PD and I think by now most of its founders had rejoined the Democratic Party) so all I can say is "finally".

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

ATTENTION TO EVERYONE: AT THE AGE OF 86, SILVIO BERLUSCONI HAS DIED.

Truly the end of an era, strangely appropriately so since we are in the first year of the first united right-wing government led by someone other than him. RIP.

[Logical]

He's joining the big bunga bunga party in the skies now. RIP

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

He's joining the big bunga bunga party in the skies now. RIP

I just realized Berlusconi was born in the same year Horace de Vere Cole - the person who first made "bunga bunga" a catchphrase - died.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

That map of the Forza Italia list vote at the fateful 1994 election again:

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

That map of the Forza Italia list vote at the fateful 1994 election again:

A map that makes a lot of sense for the most part but is also rather unusual in some ways. It's a good thing the Internet was in its infancy back then because just imagine how insufferable the discourse online about Mirafiori and Cinisello Balsamo would have been...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The striking thing about it to me is always that it is genuinely not like anything seen in Italy before, but that it nevertheless, as you say, has a certain hideous logic to it. And of course we saw it in various forms right up until Forza Italia collapsed as a major force and will - probably - never see it again.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Speaking of elections, Berlusconi's death is going to cause a by-election in the Lombardia - 06 (Monza) Senate constituency. He won it with a little over 50% of the vote in 2022 so I don't expect this to be competitive at all, but sometimes very low turnout has caused weird things to happen.

[Cassius]

Any reason for Sicily being titanium FI in 1994? No MSI tradition (although I can see some deep shades in Lazio where the MSI was pretty strong iirc)?

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Any reason for Sicily being titanium FI in 1994? No MSI tradition (although I can see some deep shades in Lazio where the MSI was pretty strong iirc)?

Sicily had a pretty strong MSI tradition in fact, but was also one of the most conservative regions overall with mad margins for the Christian Democracy over the Communist Party in northern Sicily in particular. I can't think about one surefire explanation but I believe that Antonio Martino (ex-PLI and one of the most important allies of Berlusconi in founding Forza Italia) hailing from Messina was an important factor. I also note that the strong result for FI in Sicily corresponds and is probably correlated to a weak result for the PPI compared to regions like Calabria or Basilicata.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The schism in the Sicily DC over the Second Mafia War will also have been a factor.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

That map of the Forza Italia list vote at the fateful 1994 election again:

What's with Apulia?

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

That map of the Forza Italia list vote at the fateful 1994 election again:

What's with Apulia?

Forza Italia was not able to run a list there because of some screw-up when collecting signatures, although I do not remember the details.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Yes, they cocked their paperwork up. Which, in a way, was another portent of the near future.

[Estrella]

Since we're talking about maps, the 90s and Sicily, here's perhaps the funniest (or at least most stereotypical) electoral map in existence. Behold, Mario Segni's 1993 referendum on replacing PR with FPTP for Senate elections telling the First Republic political class and associated criminals to get fxcked:



Highest % for Yes: Lega heartlands of upland Veneto and Lombardy
Lowest % for Yes: Palermo