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« on: June 22, 2018, 10:45:41 PM »

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As my friend who brought this to my attention said, there is no way they'll be able to set up housing or services for that many people in anything resembling a reasonable time frame.  If you cram 47,000 people into the Naval Weapons Station, conditions will be bad enough that people will probably die.

https://desaulnier.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-desaulnier-responds-trump-administration-s-proposal-create
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2018, 10:46:49 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2018, 10:48:01 PM »

Does this not run afoul of Posse Comitatus?

At any rate, the libertarians who shrieked about Jade Helm are nowhere to be found. And the liberals who mocked them wish they were.
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2018, 10:58:35 PM »

There's no way there wont be/isn't a whole lot of child abuse going on here.

The Democrats need to do something unprecedented.
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2018, 11:02:35 PM »

47,000 illegal immigrants

and the left says illegal immigration isn't a problem
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2018, 11:03:55 PM »

There's no way there wont be/isn't a whole lot of child abuse going on here.

The Democrats need to do something unprecedented.

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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2018, 11:11:59 PM »

The military had to come up with something to do with that $55 billion a year increase that 80% of Senate Democrats just voted for.
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2018, 11:13:48 PM »

47,000 illegal immigrants

and the left says illegal immigration isn't a problem
12 million Jews

And the Allies say Judeo-Bolshevism isn’t a problem!
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2018, 11:19:49 PM »

47,000 illegal immigrants

and the left says illegal immigration isn't a problem
12 million Jews

And the Allies say Judeo-Bolshevism isn’t a problem!

Jews were singled out just for existing. They couldn't escape going to the camps.

Illegal immigrants are being singled out (for far less severe, non-lethal treatment) because they are trying to illegally immigrate. They can easily avoid going to one of these camps by not attempting to illegally immigrate.

Seriously, the comparisons are dumb as hell. They basically come down to "Jews were held in buildings during the Holocaust so holding people in buildings for any reason is genocide".
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2018, 11:21:46 PM »

^ Just put him on ignore.

The forum is a lot better not having to read this dullard's strawman #analysis.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2018, 11:23:17 PM »

47,000 illegal immigrants

and the left says illegal immigration isn't a problem
12 million Jews

And the Allies say Judeo-Bolshevism isn’t a problem!

Jews were singled out just for existing. They couldn't escape going to the camps.

Illegal immigrants are being singled out (for far less severe, non-lethal treatment) because they are trying to illegally immigrate. They can easily avoid going to one of these camps by not attempting to illegally immigrate.

Seriously, the comparisons are dumb as hell. They basically come down to "Jews were held in buildings during the Holocaust so holding people in buildings for any reason is genocide".

What a concept.

Is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION a problem?  That's a question that a lot of folks need to go on record about, one way or the other.  
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2018, 11:25:26 PM »

It's really depressing that adults have to have it explained to them that having a border is not the same as genocide.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2018, 11:28:04 PM »

This whole thing makes me want to puke. I wish I could house even just a few with me.

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2018, 11:32:57 PM »

Constructing camps to throw people into is a lot different than protecting the border. Why not just send them back instead of throwing them into a camps? This does not have to be an exact match to the Holocaust to be wrong because there are varying degrees of wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2018, 11:40:35 PM »

For God's sake, ICE is confiscating kids' rosaries.



And if you think that is acceptable for any reason, you're trash, especially if you claim to be a follower of Christ.  Though I am intrigued, if not disturbed, by the number of humans this week who manage to live without a heart - all very interesting from a biological perspective.
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2018, 11:40:40 PM »

47,000 illegal immigrants

and the left says illegal immigration isn't a problem
12 million Jews

And the Allies say Judeo-Bolshevism isn’t a problem!

False equivalency. We aren't killing them at random.
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2018, 11:40:56 PM »

Constructing camps to throw people into is a lot different than protecting the border. Why not just send them back instead of throwing them into a camps? This does not have to be an exact match to the Holocaust to be wrong because there are varying degrees of wrong.

But but but Obama did catch and release and it was bad because Obama did it and and and THEY'RE BROWN AND SCARY.

Seriously.  I get that illegal border crossing is illegal. Let's not waste tax money on punishing foreign citizens for misdemeanors and send them back instead of imprisoning them. Let's use that money for other purposes and work on a real immigration policy.  Putting immigrants in concentration camps is not only disgusting and immoral; it's pointlessly expensive.
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2018, 11:42:41 PM »

Constructing camps to throw people into is a lot different than protecting the border. Why not just send them back instead of throwing them into a camps? This does not have to be an exact match to the Holocaust to be wrong because there are varying degrees of wrong.

I would love to send them back. In fact, this is an option that is given to them. Most choose to go to detention centers. The detention centers give them free food and shelter, which American citizens are not even entitled too. We should just send them back though, you're right.
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2018, 11:47:06 PM »

Constructing camps to throw people into is a lot different than protecting the border. Why not just send them back instead of throwing them into a camps? This does not have to be an exact match to the Holocaust to be wrong because there are varying degrees of wrong.

But but but Obama did catch and release and it was bad because Obama did it and and and THEY'RE BROWN AND SCARY.

Seriously.  I get that illegal border crossing is illegal. Let's not waste tax money on punishing foreign citizens for misdemeanors and send them back instead of imprisoning them. Let's use that money for other purposes and work on a real immigration policy.  Putting immigrants in concentration camps is not only disgusting and immoral; it's pointlessly expensive.

You realize that "catch and release" was releasing them into the United States, right?
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2018, 11:49:51 PM »

In before the child abuse and malnutrition scandal.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2018, 12:12:39 AM »

"Internment camps" didn't involve genocide, either.  They were still concentration camps, and they were still wrong.
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2018, 12:22:48 AM »

"Internment camps" didn't involve genocide, either.  They were still concentration camps, and they were still wrong.

I agree. Japanese internment camps were wrong.

Immigrant detention centers are not like Japanese internment camps either.

Japanese Americans were put in camps because of who they were. They did not have the option of avoiding them by simply going home.

Illegal immigrants are in detention centers, not because of who they are, but because of what they did. They also have the option of leaving the detention centers and returning home.
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2018, 12:28:56 AM »

There's no way there wont be/isn't a whole lot of child abuse going on here.

The Democrats need to do something unprecedented.

There's very little we can do as long as those fvkwads on the other side hold congress.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2018, 01:46:11 AM »

The camps for those evil MS-13 children and families continue! Good work Fuhrer Trump, hopefully next we can put all Demoncrats in camps for opposing your greatness.
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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2018, 01:50:13 AM »

"Internment camps" didn't involve genocide, either.  They were still concentration camps, and they were still wrong.

I agree. Japanese internment camps were wrong.

Immigrant detention centers are not like Japanese internment camps either.

Japanese Americans were put in camps because of who they were. They did not have the option of avoiding them by simply going home.

Illegal immigrants are in detention centers, not because of who they are, but because of what they did. They also have the option of leaving the detention centers and returning home.
Good to know that human rights only apply if you follow immigration laws
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