Mexico General Discussion: Amlodipine

[Dereich]

Even with a bare majority, I’m pretty sure the AMLO alliance can peel a few scant seats from PRI and PRD after-the-fact. Also considering that there’s more to lose with the various coalition possibilities on the anti-AMLO bloc, I’d say AMLO is actually safe till the election after this one, but the focus now is enacting reforms to make him popular again and change Mexico with it.

One of the things that most interests me is with the PRI. The longer they aren’t in power and end up aligning with PAN, the looser their grip is on the few institutions and reliable voter bases they have left. Depending on how long AMLO remains President, he could do quite a bit of shaking with the bureaucracy and military that were previously staffed with loyal PRIistas.

I can't imagine that he'd seek re-election, trampling the massive precedent set by the Mexican Revolution. Especially someone like him who has made Mexican history such a centerpiece of his image.

[PSOL]

Even with a bare majority, I’m pretty sure the AMLO alliance can peel a few scant seats from PRI and PRD after-the-fact. Also considering that there’s more to lose with the various coalition possibilities on the anti-AMLO bloc, I’d say AMLO is actually safe till the election after this one, but the focus now is enacting reforms to make him popular again and change Mexico with it.

One of the things that most interests me is with the PRI. The longer they aren’t in power and end up aligning with PAN, the looser their grip is on the few institutions and reliable voter bases they have left. Depending on how long AMLO remains President, he could do quite a bit of shaking with the bureaucracy and military that were previously staffed with loyal PRIistas.

I can't imagine that he'd seek re-election, trampling the massive precedent set by the Mexican Revolution. Especially someone like him who has made Mexican history such a centerpiece of his image.

Power, with the excuse of a “lack of better options”, is always tempting. 

One other thing that really baffles me is where do the urbanite liberals go to right now? Both PAN and MORENA have conservative elements in them and the PRD and MC are all but irrelevant in vast swathes of the nation. Going by their class status, PAN seems like a likely home, but the conservatism and support for the middle-class shopkeeps and “old economy” corporations leaves little for them to influence politics.

[PSOL]

They’re setting to legalize cannabis. I guess this is AMLO’s way of both gaining support with the youth after the femicide murders and to raise the economy’s prospects. It’s most likely going to be a successful gamble.

Exactly what will happen to MC and PRD’e remaining support will most likely be quite negative for the respective parties. They f•••ed themselves by aligning with the conservatives.

[NewYorkExpress]

Andres Manuel Obrador tries to explain away his decision to send excess water to poor rural areas rather than the city of Villahermosa.

Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said Monday he had to face a tough decision on whether to allow a big city to be flooded, or to direct excess water to poorer, more sparsely populated Indigenous areas. The president, whose slogan has always been “the poor come first,” chose the latter.

“It hurts me a lot,” López Obrador said, while noting “there would have been a lot more people affected" had the city of Villahermosa been flooded. He promised to drag river channels and reduce the focus on hydroelectric power production at a dam whose outflow contributed to the problem.


López Obrador defended his decision to open strategic floodgates, saying it avoided a major flood in Villahermosa, the capital of the Gulf coast state of Tabasco and home to over 350,000 people.

Tabasco is the president's home state, and heavy rains there have affected about 161,000 inhabitants whose homes were flooded or had to be evacuated.

[NewYorkExpress]

Mexico says it will no longer allow officials accused of corruption to be tried in the United States.

Mexico said Thursday it will no longer allow officials accused of corruption to be tried in the United States, a move that could end a decades-old tradition in which most of Mexico’s high-profile drug-trafficking and corruption cases have been tried north of the border.

However, the extent of the new policy was unclear, and officials suggested some extraditions could continue.

There was no immediate comment from U.S. officials on Mexico’s bombshell statement, but it came one day after the U.S. dropped a high-profile drug trafficking and money laundering case against a former Mexican defense secretary.

The announcement suggests the fallout from the arrest of former Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos — which enraged Mexico when the Justice Department announced it last month — is far broader than previously known.

“Whoever is culpable according to our laws will be tried, judged and if applicable sentenced in Mexico, and not in other countries, and that is the basis which has been encouraged with this agreement,” said Foreign Relations Secretary Marcelo Ebrard. “That is what has been discussed, what has been agreed and what has been maintained with U.S. authorities.”

[PSOL]

https://twitter.com/americaelige/status/1333450840871415810
Reassuring numbers if true for MORENA. If the poll is anywhere in the margin of error, it indicates that PAN is the face of the opposition.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Wait, reelection is legal in Mexico now? Was there some sort of constitutional reform?

[jaichind]

El Universal  poll

AMLO approval/disapproval 64/25



Party support

MORENA      32
PAN             17
PRI              16
PRD              4
PVEM            4
PT                4
MC               3


Pretty good poll result for PRI under the circumstances.

[NewYorkExpress]

Lopez Obrador's Chief of Staff, Alfonso Romo is resigning. He won't be replaced.

President López Obrador announced Wednesday that his chief of staff was stepping down but would continue to be his “main link” to the private sector.

López Obrador said on Twitter that Alfonso Romo, a business tycoon with interests in several sectors and a former olympic equestrian, agreed to serve two years in his government and that period has now concluded.

There's also an investigation beginning into how one of Lopez Orbador's cousins got a contract with Pemex, a state owned petroleum company.

The Mexican government pledged Saturday to investigate how a cousin of President Andrés Manuel López Obrador managed to get two contracts with the state-owned oil company Petroleos Mexicanos, known as Pemex.

The issue goes to the core of López Obrador’s central campaign promise to rid Mexico of corruption and insider deals.

The company Litoral Laboratorios Industriales is part owned by the president's first cousin, Felipa Guadalupe Obrador Olan. The firm, founded in 2006, has won government contracts since 2013, long before López Obrador took office in December 2018.

But the government told Litoral Laboratorios Industriales in December 2019 to stop filing for bids because of the blood ties.

However, as late as November 2019 the firm somehow managed to join consortiums with several other firms to win two bids, first as part of a three-company alliance and the second time with seven other firms.

[jaichind]

It seems that for 2021 elections PAN PRI PRD might form an anti-MORENA alliance.  This seems like will take place in some states but perhaps not others.  Amazing

[CumbrianLefty]

It seems that for 2021 elections PAN PRI PRD might form an anti-MORENA alliance.  This seems like will take place in some states but perhaps not others.  Amazing

Heh, can see that being stable.

[jaichind]

It seems that for 2021 elections PAN PRI PRD might form an anti-MORENA alliance.  This seems like will take place in some states but perhaps not others.  Amazing

Heh, can see that being stable.

I think think will work out badly for PRI.  The anti-MOREAN PRI vote might shift to PAN as a result of this alliance and PRI while the PRI vote that shifted to MORENA in 2018 might not come back even if AMLO's star loses luster next few years.  PRI might go the way of PRD and become a minor party in Mexico.

[Bootes Void]

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-biden/us-president-elect-biden-mexicos-president-vow-to-cooperate-on-immigration-idUSKBN28T0HZ?utm_source=reddit.com

U.S. President-elect Joe Biden and Mexico’s President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador on Saturday committed to work on a humane strategy to regional migration by addressing its root causes in Central America and southern Mexico.

Biden pledged to build “the regional and border infrastructure and capacity needed to facilitate a new orderly and humane approach to migration that will respect international norms regarding the treatment of asylum claims,” the statement from Biden’s team said.

Earlier this week Lopez Obrador suggested the two neighbors under Biden’s new Democratic administration work together on the thorny issue of immigration.

Republican President Donald Trump’s unprecedented demands that the Mexican government do more to reduce the flow of U.S.-bound migrants, including harboring migrants in Mexico while they wait for their U.S. court dates and paying for a border wall, caused friction in the relationship.

Biden emphasized the need to reinvigorate U.S.-Mexico cooperation on migration as well as the COVID-19 pandemic, the economy and border security.

[brucejoel99]

Does this mean we can finally have the taco trucks on every corner? I really want a taco truck.

[CumbrianLefty]

Sounds mildly encouraging.

[PSOL]

I am going definitely going to offer (critical) support to AMLO and PT outside of whether the EZLN may support a candidate or the 23rd district most likely

[PSOL]

MORENA gubernatorial candidate accused of rape will still stand in Guerrero
AMLO can get away with this now due to the fact that other parties really are not better at this, but eventually this along with other socially conservative antics will drag his vote down if a credible leftist alternative appears in the future.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

MORENA gubernatorial candidate accused of rape will still stand in Guerrero
AMLO can get away with this now due to the fact that other parties really are not better at this, but eventually this along with other socially conservative antics will drag his vote down if a credible leftist alternative appears in the future.

My impression of the AMLO era in general is that he's been a big disappointment but still manifestly better than the alternatives.

[PSOL]

MORENA gubernatorial candidate accused of rape will still stand in Guerrero
AMLO can get away with this now due to the fact that other parties really are not better at this, but eventually this along with other socially conservative antics will drag his vote down if a credible leftist alternative appears in the future.

My impression of the AMLO era in general is that he's been a big disappointment but still manifestly better than the alternatives.

Indeed he is

currently there’s a renegotiation of private prison contracts along with the President just now caring about undocumented folks by pressing the US government to get them vaccinated. Whether he actually believes in what he does or it’s all cold electoral calculus, he’s much better than the likely alternatives.

[WMS]

Does AMLO’s refusal to condemn Trump’s attempted coup and his condemnation of Twitter’s ban of Trump change anyone’s mind?

[CumbrianLefty]

So why exactly is he/they so pro-Trump?

[WMS]

I will defer to the experts on this for the most part but fellow populist travelers seems to be part of it.

[jaichind]

So why exactly is he/they so pro-Trump?

AMLO has empathy for Trump on his claims of election fraud because AMLO in 2006 and 2012 claimed he was cheated out of election victories due to election fraud.  Part of this I am sure is also to make sure he does not look like a hypocrite than any real empathy. 

[CumbrianLefty]

So why exactly is he/they so pro-Trump?

AMLO has empathy for Trump on his claims of election fraud because AMLO in 2006 and 2012 claimed he was cheated out of election victories due to election fraud.  Part of this I am sure is also to make sure he does not look like a hypocrite than any real empathy. 

Ah, that makes some sense actually.

[PSOL]

General Salvador Cienfuegos exonerated

AMLO isn’t stupid enough to risk angering the military and getting overthrown in a coup.