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Question: Abortion and Guns where do you stand?
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Keep guns/keep abortion legal
 
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Keep guns/make abortion illegal
 
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Ban guns/keep abortion legal
 
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ban guns/make abortion illegal
 
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2005, 07:50:13 PM »

Anyone who wants to talk about "the disaster that would happen if abortion was made illegal" and mentions back alley abortions miss the fact that the government is not responsible for other people's stupidity. Why should the government be liable for someone willing going through a procedure which never (or very rarely) has any possible positive outcomes? And that is whether abortion is legal or illegal.

While abortion only poses a danger to the mother and the child, guns can pose a danger to anyone. But guns can have both positive and negative out comes. And those who are responsible enough to use guns should have the right to do so, while those who do not shouldn't.
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« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2005, 09:24:47 PM »

I support a ban on some guns (and of course support keeping abortions legal), so I voted Option 3.
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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2005, 12:12:56 AM »

Abortion should be fully outlawed and guns should be kept legal for non-felons.
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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2005, 10:25:30 AM »

Abortion should be fully outlawed and guns should be kept legal for non-felons.

that is the stupidiest thing you've ever posted.

how are you going to stop felons from not getting a gun when they can get drugs illegally?
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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2005, 10:27:32 AM »

Abortion should be fully outlawed and guns should be kept legal for non-felons.
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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2005, 10:29:21 AM »

Abortion should be fully outlawed and guns should be kept legal for non-felons.
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how are you going to do that? even places that have banned gund criminals still have them
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2005, 10:30:44 AM »

Why should a right be restricted just because criminals break the law?  Law-abiding citizens should not have any unreasonable restrictions upon their right to bear arms
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2005, 10:34:23 AM »

Abortion should be fully outlawed and guns should be kept legal for non-felons.
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Thirded.
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2005, 02:39:22 PM »

Stand your ground.  Shoot anyone who tries to block access to a women's clinic.

:Culture of death:

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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2005, 02:42:39 PM »

Abortion should be fully outlawed and guns should be kept legal for non-felons.

that is the stupidiest thing you've ever posted.

how are you going to stop felons from not getting a gun when they can get drugs illegally?

That is a task for law enforcement, enforcing laws on the books banning felons from possessing guns. You can't legislate what people do, only what they can do.
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2005, 11:21:19 PM »

Stand your ground.  Shoot anyone who tries to block access to a women's clinic.

:Culture of death:

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My POV:

Stand your groung. Shoot/Slash anyone who tries to GET IN an abortion clinic.
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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2005, 11:24:50 PM »

Stand your ground.  Shoot anyone who tries to block access to a women's clinic.

:Culture of death:

</sarcasm>

My POV:

Stand your groung. Shoot/Slash anyone who tries to GET IN an abortion clinic.

Not only would that kill the person, but the baby as well.
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2005, 11:28:50 PM »

Stand your ground.  Shoot anyone who tries to block access to a women's clinic.

:Culture of death:

</sarcasm>

My POV:

Stand your groung. Shoot/Slash anyone who tries to GET IN an abortion clinic.

Not only would that kill the person, but the baby as well.

Well, since that person supported abortion, the pro-death freaks should have nothing to complain about, because, in their POV, I should only be charged for murdering/maiming the individual (woman), not the unborn child because the woman was intending to abort it anyways.
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2005, 12:35:29 AM »

Stand your ground.  Shoot anyone who tries to block access to a women's clinic.

:Culture of death:

</sarcasm>

My POV:

Stand your groung. Shoot/Slash anyone who tries to GET IN an abortion clinic.

Not only would that kill the person, but the baby as well.

Well, since that person supported abortion, the pro-death freaks should have nothing to complain about, because, in their POV, I should only be charged for murdering/maiming the individual (woman), not the unborn child because the woman was intending to abort it anyways.

yeah, but that's not your point of veiw.  Your point of veiw would still mean you killed those innocent babies. You murderer.
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2005, 04:58:53 AM »

Option 3- Abortion Stays, Guns go

I hate guns, women need abortion as a possible last resort. Despite pro-lifers stupid theory, not every baby can get adopted, many will end up miserable in orphanges and abusive foster homes. Thats not to say that abortion is desirable.

Guns-Bad     But they are part of the Bill of Rights and I respect that, they're never going away, since if Liberals repeal Amendment 2, the far right might repeal Amendment 1, and that would suck so bad.

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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2005, 07:00:33 AM »

I hate guns, women need abortion as a possible last resort. Despite pro-lifers stupid theory, not every baby can get adopted, many will end up miserable in orphanges and abusive foster homes. Thats not to say that abortion is desirable.

Pro-death scum!

ok so, If you are not trained with a melee weapon (sword/staff) and someone breaks into your house. What do you do? Do you run for cover? do you lock yourself in the closet and hope the perpetrator is not armed?

Most likely, people like you, who believe that guns should be availabvle only to the government, would be regretting your opinions and for listening to the media and the do-righters. They (pro-death / anti gun whackos) will pay the ultimate price for their ignorance and gullibility.
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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2005, 07:59:09 AM »



It's really simple.  Make abortions legal only in cases of rape, incest, and threat to the mothers health.  That removes abortion-on-demand as a form of birth control, especially since there are enough morning-after pills available these days which will work for a week after conseption. 

But then again, this goes back to people taking responsibility for their actions.  If you want to have sex, expect to get pregnant.  If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex.  If you do get pregnant and don't see a doctor for a morning-after pill, then you failed in your responsibility to avoid pregnancy and now you have to be responsible for bring the child to term.  If you want to put it up for adoption, that's great.  If you want to raise the child yourself, even better.  But you have no room to complain for the failure of your initial responsibility.  There are so many people out there that are trying and failing to have kids of their own.  How dare you treat the life of the unborn so carelessly?

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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2005, 09:19:50 AM »

Fourthed.
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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2005, 05:06:48 PM »

Abortion and Gun Control: My two biggest hot-button issues. Very much opposed to both.

Option 2
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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2005, 08:50:48 PM »

Fifthed
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« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2005, 07:43:46 PM »

keep guns and keep abortion legal.
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