Will Famous Mortimer vote for Trump in 2020?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

[Santander]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

To be fair, so did the literal Nazis.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

To be fair, so did the literal Nazis.

No they didn't. The "Socialist" in the party name was only there because it was a word salad designed to make it sound "above ideology".

[Santander]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

To be fair, so did the literal Nazis.

No they didn't. The "Socialist" in the party name was only there because it was a word salad designed to make it sound "above ideology".

Can't you just admit it was a good joke and move on?...

[mvd10]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

To be fair, so did the literal Nazis.

No they didn't. The "Socialist" in the party name was only there because it was a word salad designed to make it sound "above ideology".

Well, I don't like the muh Hitler was left-wing!!! crowd, but there were some Nazis who took the socialism part more seriously than others. Hitler got rid of them tho.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

To be fair, so did the literal Nazis.

No they didn't. The "Socialist" in the party name was only there because it was a word salad designed to make it sound "above ideology".

Can't you just admit it was a good joke and move on?...

No, because that "joke" has been beaten to death by right wingers.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

We need every vote possible in order to make the impending Trumpslide a reality.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I will join #WalkAway if he does!

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

He used to be a socialist? Can you link some of his old posts?

[IceSpear]

Any voter as obsessed with identity politics as he is is of course going to support the party (and particularly the candidate) based solely around identity politics.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

To be fair, so did the literal Nazis.

No they didn't. The "Socialist" in the party name was only there because it was a word salad designed to make it sound "above ideology".

Can't you just admit it was a good joke and move on?...

No, because that "joke" has been beaten to death by right wingers.

More like sliced to death.

[morgieb]

This o/c implies he didn't in 2016, which is wrong.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Remember he used to claim to be a socialist. Oh how things change.

To be fair, so did the literal Nazis.

No they didn't. The "Socialist" in the party name was only there because it was a word salad designed to make it sound "above ideology".

Can't you just admit it was a good joke and move on?...

No, because that "joke" has been beaten to death by right wingers.

Something you and right wingers have in common. Beating things that is.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I can't imagine him not doing so, but who knows?

I haven't committed to voting for Trump in 2020. 

[Crumpets]

I dunno. How's the American Freedom Party looking these days?

[Adam Griffin]

WillipsBrighton has always had f[inks]d-up social/cultural views, observable going back years on here: his shift to loving Trump shouldn't surprise anybody.

(Also, perfect time to express my pet peeve about how we call so many posters by their handle rather than their fleeting usernames)

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

WillipsBrighton has always had f[inks]d-up social/cultural views, observable going back years on here: his shift to loving Trump shouldn't surprise anybody.

(Also, perfect time to express my pet peeve about how we call so many posters by their handle rather than their fleeting usernames)

But this is correct, no?

[Adam Griffin]

WillipsBrighton has always had f[inks]d-up social/cultural views, observable going back years on here: his shift to loving Trump shouldn't surprise anybody.

(Also, perfect time to express my pet peeve about how we call so many posters by their handle rather than their fleeting usernames)

But this is correct, no?

Whoops! Yeah, invert those two.

[Famous Mortimer]

I voted for Trump in 2016 and I will probably vote for him in 2020.

I've always been a social democrat and I still am. I realize social democratic programs are impossible to maintain with permissive immigration policies.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

WillipsBrighton has always had f[inks]d-up social/cultural views, observable going back years on here: his shift to loving Trump shouldn't surprise anybody.

(Also, perfect time to express my pet peeve about how we call so many posters by their handle rather than their fleeting usernames)

But this is correct, no?

Whoops! Yeah, invert those two.

So, just to get this straight, you would prefer we be referred to as our original usernames, as opposed to our screen names?

[Adam Griffin]

WillipsBrighton has always had f[inks]d-up social/cultural views, observable going back years on here: his shift to loving Trump shouldn't surprise anybody.

(Also, perfect time to express my pet peeve about how we call so many posters by their handle rather than their fleeting usernames)

But this is correct, no?

Whoops! Yeah, invert those two.

So, just to get this straight, you would prefer we be referred to as our original usernames, as opposed to our screen names?

Yes, as it's the only constant. Lots of people change their screen names all the time, so identifying people by that metric isn't effective (and I do prefer consistency across all users!).

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I voted for Trump in 2016 and I will probably vote for him in 2020.

I've always been a social democrat and I still am. I realize social democratic programs are impossible to maintain with permissive immigration policies.

LOL SOCIAL DEMOCRACY LOL

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/what-did-corporate-america-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trumps-first-full-education-budget-deep-cuts-to-public-school-programs-in-pursuit-of-school-choice/2017/05/17/2a25a2cc-3a41-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?utm_term=.edbd1e7e979e

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/10/601332980/president-trump-turns-attention-to-welfare-programs

Social demokkkrats for Trump: the new "socialists for Christie."

You're a classcuck, Morty.  Just own it.

[Famous Mortimer]

I voted for Trump in 2016 and I will probably vote for him in 2020.

I've always been a social democrat and I still am. I realize social democratic programs are impossible to maintain with permissive immigration policies.

LOL SOCIAL DEMOCRACY LOL

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/what-did-corporate-america-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trumps-first-full-education-budget-deep-cuts-to-public-school-programs-in-pursuit-of-school-choice/2017/05/17/2a25a2cc-3a41-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?utm_term=.edbd1e7e979e

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/10/601332980/president-trump-turns-attention-to-welfare-programs

Social demokkkrats for Trump: the new "socialists for Christie."

You're a classcuck, Morty.  Just own it.

I don't think Trump will enact social democratic programs but I don't think the Democrats will either, at least not functional ones.

I'd rather have functional neo-liberalism than dysfunctional social democracy.

Also, far from being a "classcuck", I am explicitly voting for my own financial interests. As a taxpayer who makes too much to qualify for most welfare programs, it makes no sense for me to vote for a party that seeks to increase the number of poor people who would. Voting to have my meager income redistributed to the global poor is not in my interests.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I voted for Trump in 2016 and I will probably vote for him in 2020.

I've always been a social democrat and I still am. I realize social democratic programs are impossible to maintain with permissive immigration policies.

LOL SOCIAL DEMOCRACY LOL

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/what-did-corporate-america-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trumps-first-full-education-budget-deep-cuts-to-public-school-programs-in-pursuit-of-school-choice/2017/05/17/2a25a2cc-3a41-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?utm_term=.edbd1e7e979e

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/10/601332980/president-trump-turns-attention-to-welfare-programs

Social demokkkrats for Trump: the new "socialists for Christie."

You're a classcuck, Morty.  Just own it.

I don't think Trump will enact social democratic programs but I don't think the Democrats will either, at least not functional ones.

I'd rather have functional neo-liberalism than dysfunctional social democracy.

Also, far from being a "classcuck", I am explicitly voting for my own financial interests. As a taxpayer who makes too much to qualify for most welfare programs, it makes no sense for me to vote for a party that seeks to increase the number of poor people who would. Voting to have my meager income redistributed to the global poor is not in my interests.

But immigrants don't drain the welfare system.  Actually, they fund it.  New immigrants - documented or undocumented - are not allowed to collect CHIP, disability, food stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, or welfare.  Undocumented immigrants may be eligible for emergency medical care (no follow-up care, of course), schooling, and WIC, but not much else.  Yet they still pay sales and property taxes for local government services like everyone else does.  Legal immigrants, thanks to a very strict law Bill Clinton signed more than two decades ago, must reside in the country for a number of years before being eligible for government assistance.

The CBO determined that expanding the number of legal immigrants in the US could increase federal revenues by $48 billion over a decade, less than half of which would go to covering government services.

[Famous Mortimer]

From the article you posted:

"Groups like the innocuously named Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) circulate figures on this subject which seem accurate at first blush but fail to take the full picture into account. For example, CIS counts entire households with an immigrant father and an American mother receiving welfare as immigrant families. They count American-born children receiving subsidized lunches as living in immigrant welfare families. In other words, they skew data to make it look both like more immigrants are receiving welfare than actually are and that they’re receiving more in welfare than they actually are."

So immigrants are a drain, not necessarily because they use welfare themselves (although they often do) but because they have children they can't afford.

Anchor babies, just like Donald Trump said.