Fraud Tulsi Gabbard backs centrist carpetbagger over multiple progressives

[America Needs R'hllor]

She is adored by the Bernie crowd solely because she endorsed him early on.

I don't think that's quite right.  If you read some of the Gabbard fans on Run Tulsi Run, they like her, I think, because she's against the bipartisan foreign policy consensus.  In fact, some of them would probably say that they're less than thrilled with Sanders on foreign policy at times.  E.g., when Trump launched an attack on Assad over chemical weapons use, Sanders's critique was more process oriented, whereas Gabbard said it was wrong as a matter of principle.

Now, granted, it's only a tiny percentage of voters who care about such things.  But only a tiny percentage of voters know who Gabbard is.

I mean, yeah, she's out of the mainstream on foreign policy, but it's not like she's some anti-war dove. She just supports a ruthless dictator who murders his people, and I guess some anti-establishment "progressives" in the Green Party mold like that because it makes her aligned with the global Putinist movement.

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She is adored by the Bernie crowd solely because she endorsed him early on.

I don't think that's quite right.  If you read some of the Gabbard fans on Run Tulsi Run, they like her, I think, because she's against the bipartisan foreign policy consensus.  In fact, some of them would probably say that they're less than thrilled with Sanders on foreign policy at times.  E.g., when Trump launched an attack on Assad over chemical weapons use, Sanders's critique was more process oriented, whereas Gabbard said it was wrong as a matter of principle.

Now, granted, it's only a tiny percentage of voters who care about such things.  But only a tiny percentage of voters know who Gabbard is.

I mean, yeah, she's out of the mainstream on foreign policy, but it's not like she's some anti-war dove. She just supports a ruthless dictator who murders his people, and I guess some anti-establishment "progressives" in the Green Party mold like that because it makes her aligned with the global Putinist movement.

Opposing the arming of Al Qaeda may be out of the mainstream of the people running this country, but it's definitely not out of the mainstream.

[AtorBoltox]

She is adored by the Bernie crowd solely because she endorsed him early on.

I don't think that's quite right.  If you read some of the Gabbard fans on Run Tulsi Run, they like her, I think, because she's against the bipartisan foreign policy consensus.  In fact, some of them would probably say that they're less than thrilled with Sanders on foreign policy at times.  E.g., when Trump launched an attack on Assad over chemical weapons use, Sanders's critique was more process oriented, whereas Gabbard said it was wrong as a matter of principle.

Now, granted, it's only a tiny percentage of voters who care about such things.  But only a tiny percentage of voters know who Gabbard is.

I mean, yeah, she's out of the mainstream on foreign policy, but it's not like she's some anti-war dove. She just supports a ruthless dictator who murders his people, and I guess some anti-establishment "progressives" in the Green Party mold like that because it makes her aligned with the global Putinist movement.

Opposing the arming of Al Qaeda may be out of the mainstream of the people running this country, but it's definitely not out of the mainstream.

'Progressives' like jfern sure do lap up Baathist and russian propoganda very easily

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She is adored by the Bernie crowd solely because she endorsed him early on.

I don't think that's quite right.  If you read some of the Gabbard fans on Run Tulsi Run, they like her, I think, because she's against the bipartisan foreign policy consensus.  In fact, some of them would probably say that they're less than thrilled with Sanders on foreign policy at times.  E.g., when Trump launched an attack on Assad over chemical weapons use, Sanders's critique was more process oriented, whereas Gabbard said it was wrong as a matter of principle.

Now, granted, it's only a tiny percentage of voters who care about such things.  But only a tiny percentage of voters know who Gabbard is.

I mean, yeah, she's out of the mainstream on foreign policy, but it's not like she's some anti-war dove. She just supports a ruthless dictator who murders his people, and I guess some anti-establishment "progressives" in the Green Party mold like that because it makes her aligned with the global Putinist movement.

Opposing the arming of Al Qaeda may be out of the mainstream of the people running this country, but it's definitely not out of the mainstream.

'Progressives' like jfern sure do lap up Baathist and russian propoganda very easily

It's pretty clear that the money for those Syrian rebels went to Syrian Al Qaeda and probably even ISIS. Her bill got 14 co-sponsors, and Senator Paul introduced a companion bill in the Senate. So that's 15 other members of congress who agreed that this is a real issue.

[Free Bird]

Gabbard would never get out of the Democratic primary and I'd be surprised if she remained a Democrat much longer. IMO, the only reason she endorsed Sanders was because she was never going to stand for a woman winning the nomination because she wants to be the first woman to be President. She is no progressive.

Oh yes, that's why.

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NH-1 resident here. Here are some of Maura Sullivan's greatest hits:

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Here's your receipts proving Tulsi's ready for Maura.

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When later asked her stance herself, she said that legalization was a "states' rights issue", though she is for declassification and federal medicinal marijuana.

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The Problem Solvers Caucus is all fun and good until you realize that they're run by an anti-progressive group posing as nonpartisan. Their token Independent and Democrat are Trump supporters, and their token Republican is literally Trump's ambassador to Russia.

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And, my personal favorite (the one that got her universal condemnation), Maura Sullivan on Confederate monuments:

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And if you want to talk about her inner circle, her campaign manager retweeted Comey's ranting about how Democrats are being taken over by the "socialist left".

Mind you, this is a race where there are five Berniecrats (including our very own FDR Jr. in Levi) running. This is the candidate Tulsi Gabbard has chosen to support: a candidate who, time and time again, has been the only one in the field to be against common-sense Democratic ideas in the name of "compromise", "bipartisanship", and "incrementalism". People like to talk about Khanna as a false prophet of sorts too, but at least he endorsed Levi. He's an incompetent celebrity candidate, and nobody knows why he's running, but at least he's somewhat close to his father ideologically. Instead, Tulsi's outright chosen to donate the most conservative candidate in my congressional district.

If you look through the TULSI PAC's other contributions, this is only one case of many. Not a single cent went to strong, Bernie-affiliated challengers like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Brent Welder, or Kara Eastman. Kuster and Nolan are the two big ones - voting for Dodd-Frank repeal is a primary-able offense in and of itself, yet that didn't stop Tulsi from spending money on their behalf. Tulsi Gabbard doesn't care about the ideology of the Bernie movement. She only uses it to further her own political career.

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Dems should be praising Tulsi. She is only decent candidate left in that joke of a party.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

[Blair]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Yeah that's true. I'm just saying it'd help their case more if they could give more than one sentence saying "Tulsi Gabbard is the Democrats' only hope" with literally zero elaboration.

[Saint Milei]

She is adored by the Bernie crowd solely because she endorsed him early on.

I don't think that's quite right.  If you read some of the Gabbard fans on Run Tulsi Run, they like her, I think, because she's against the bipartisan foreign policy consensus.  In fact, some of them would probably say that they're less than thrilled with Sanders on foreign policy at times.  E.g., when Trump launched an attack on Assad over chemical weapons use, Sanders's critique was more process oriented, whereas Gabbard said it was wrong as a matter of principle.

Now, granted, it's only a tiny percentage of voters who care about such things.  But only a tiny percentage of voters know who Gabbard is.

I mean, yeah, she's out of the mainstream on foreign policy, but it's not like she's some anti-war dove. She just supports a ruthless dictator who murders his people, and I guess some anti-establishment "progressives" in the Green Party mold like that because it makes her aligned with the global Putinist movement.

Opposing the arming of Al Qaeda may be out of the mainstream of the people running this country, but it's definitely not out of the mainstream.

'Progressives' like jfern sure do lap up Baathist and russian propoganda very easily

It's pretty clear that the money for those Syrian rebels went to Syrian Al Qaeda and probably even ISIS. Her bill got 14 co-sponsors, and Senator Paul introduced a companion bill in the Senate. So that's 15 other members of congress who agreed that this is a real issue.

Gabbard would never get out of the Democratic primary and I'd be surprised if she remained a Democrat much longer. IMO, the only reason she endorsed Sanders was because she was never going to stand for a woman winning the nomination because she wants to be the first woman to be President. She is no progressive.

Oh yes, that's why.

Dems should be praising Tulsi. She is only decent candidate left in that joke of a party.

[Saint Milei]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

[Blair]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

[Saint Milei]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

[Blair]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

There's nothing progressive about supporting Syria; especially when they're supported by a theocratic regime like Iran, and a totalitarian regime like Russia. It's fine to be anti-intervention; but you shouldn't go and parrot the regimes lines, and take their money.

[Saint Milei]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

There's nothing progressive about supporting Syria; especially when they're supported by a theocratic regime like Iran, and a totalitarian regime like Russia. It's fine to be anti-intervention; but you shouldn't go and parrot the regimes lines, and take their money.

Assad kept Syria stable.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

Don't get me wrong I'll vote for her if I have to, but she is far from my ideal candidate.

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Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

She doesn't want to have this country go to wars for stupid reasons. As a vet, she is the opposite of a chickenhawk.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

ITT: a bunch of blue avatars lecture red avatars on who is a "true progressive" and who we should support.

[Blair]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

There's nothing progressive about supporting Syria; especially when they're supported by a theocratic regime like Iran, and a totalitarian regime like Russia. It's fine to be anti-intervention; but you shouldn't go and parrot the regimes lines, and take their money.

Assad kept Syria stable.

5 million Syrians have left the country, 6 million are displaced and 13 million need Humanitarian distance. I’m sure I don’t have to go through the multiple massacres, rapes, and pillages across Syria- all of which demonstrate that the country is not in any way stable.

Out of every other country that had an Arab Spring moment, it’s by far the worst. The reason is because Assad was one of the only people to stay.

[Beet]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

There's nothing progressive about supporting Syria; especially when they're supported by a theocratic regime like Iran, and a totalitarian regime like Russia. It's fine to be anti-intervention; but you shouldn't go and parrot the regimes lines, and take their money.

Assad kept Syria stable.

5 million Syrians have left the country, 6 million are displaced and 13 million need Humanitarian distance. I’m sure I don’t have to go through the multiple massacres, rapes, and pillages across Syria- all of which demonstrate that the country is not in any way stable.

Out of every other country that had an Arab Spring moment, it’s by far the worst. The reason is because Assad was one of the only people to stay.

Syria went through far, far the worst in the last seven years, yes. But now that Assad is asserting control, it has a prospect of real, sustained stability. Compare that with Libya - on the surface, not as bad up to now, but where does it end? Where does strong central government restore order? There's no end to the chaos in sight. These tinpot dictators are Hobbesian figures keeping a lid on a Pandora's box of societal evils and divisions.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Isn't it curious that jfern and the other Gabbard supporters never address the fact that their Queen Goddess supports regime change in Iran and was endorsed by Bill Kristol?

[Saint Milei]

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading.  

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

She doesn't want to have this country go to wars for stupid reasons. As a vet, she is the opposite of a chickenhawk.

You sound like a neo-con dove

Gabbard has done two things of note.

1.) Take a trip to Syria to meet Assad, that was paid for by the Syrian Regime, and then proceeded to mouth the exact line of the Syrian Government.

2.) Quit as DNC Vice Chair after slagging off the DNC for months.

Neither one of those things make her a good candidate. If we're going to go with a flawed, trumpist who parrots Assad's lines, can we at least have someone with executive experience like Dennis Kucinich.

-anti war
-actually a progressive
-great on social issues
-can attract independents and conservative libertarians
-understands the plight of the working class
-anti-establishment

Please take note about how only Republicans seem to be praising her. Intersting none can explain WHY she's the Democrats' only hope or whatever though.

They probably wouldn't even vote for her in the general election. So if someone wants to argue that she has crossover appeal or something, is also completely misleading. 

If it is Pence vs. Gabbard, I would absolutely vote for her.

If she's anti-war why does she support Assad?

probably because she doesnt want to go to war...

There's nothing progressive about supporting Syria; especially when they're supported by a theocratic regime like Iran, and a totalitarian regime like Russia. It's fine to be anti-intervention; but you shouldn't go and parrot the regimes lines, and take their money.

Assad kept Syria stable.

5 million Syrians have left the country, 6 million are displaced and 13 million need Humanitarian distance. I’m sure I don’t have to go through the multiple massacres, rapes, and pillages across Syria- all of which demonstrate that the country is not in any way stable.

Out of every other country that had an Arab Spring moment, it’s by far the worst. The reason is because Assad was one of the only people to stay.

Well no sht its not stable anymore but that has more to do with the failure of American foreign policy in the middle east. Assad wasnt great but he kept a balance in Syria that will disappear unless people like Gabbard stand up.








I'm really not surprised at Atlas anymore. Dems are just as bad when it comes to foreign policy as the GOP

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

LOL owned