S-18.3-4: Elimination of Income Tax Act (Statute)

[Wisconsin+17]

NAY!

Really guys? Rather than debating this?

[tmthforu94]

NAY!

Really guys? Rather than debating this?

If you'll look back on the thread, you'll see that folks were supportive of this bill. We are only tabling it because it is a duplicate of a bill you introduced two years ago that passed and is statue.

- A bill passed to eliminate the income tax in December 2016 and increase the sales tax to 7% (ironically by BK):
https:/uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253920.0]

[Wisconsin+17]

TM, that bill isn't actually active. In the last budget it was passed as a rider to the budget. I'd like to codify it back into law again rather than relying on the riders.

If I'm in error, please feel free correct me.

[tmthforu94]

The last budget doesn't have income tax:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=292329.0

Considering how vague and basic the previous budget was, especially on revenue, I wouldn't mind doing a comprehensive tax bill that specifies what our rates are for everything but that should be a separate bill as it would not be germane to this.

[Wisconsin+17]

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Agreed. We can either modify this bill to do that or propose another bill. Which would you prefer?

[tmthforu94]

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Agreed. We can either modify this bill to do that or propose another bill. Which would you prefer?

My preference would be that you withdraw it so something already in queue can take its place on the docket. That way we can take our time to come up with a good tax bill and get it introduced. Probably couldn't have anything go into effect until January 1.

[TheSaint250]

Aye.

[Senator Spark]

Aye

[Wisconsin+17]

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I'll happily do so if I can get confirmation that we indeed have no income tax as there seems to be significant confusion on this issue.

[Wisconsin+17]

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I'm going to formally raise a point of information so that this matter can be clarified first. Information has priority.

[fhtagn]

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I'm going to formally raise a point of information so that this matter can be clarified first. Information has priority.

There's nothing in the Standing Rules that says this.

[Wisconsin+17]

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253920.0

Is this statute currently active or no? I'd rather just have this simple question answered, as there was considerable confusion the last time the South tried to pass a budget.

[Wisconsin+17]

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[fhtagn]

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253920.0

Is this statute currently active or no? I'd rather just have this simple question answered, as there was considerable confusion the last time the South tried to pass a budget.

Yes, because there was never any legislation passed to repeal it.

[fhtagn]

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Once again, nothing in the standing rules states that this takes priority over a vote that has already started. In fact, there's nothing allowing this in the standing rules in the first place.

[Wisconsin+17]

You might want to hold onto that train, ma'am.

I'm currently conferring with our Justice to confirm the status of the statute.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Pursuant to the Southern Budget Act of 2018, the Southern region currently has an income tax rate of 4%. This act supersedes the previous Elimination of Income Tax Act.

[Wisconsin+17]

Given the new information, I move that tabling the bill be rescinded and that debate be resumed.

[Wisconsin+17]

No worries. Thanks.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

By a vote of five ayes to one nay, with one delegate not voting, this bill has been tabled.

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I third the motion to rescind tabling given the new information.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Who in the hell resurrected the income tax?

Wouldn't it require authorization first? I remember a bill repealing the power to assess an income tax. Merely stating that the income tax is now X arguably wouldn't overcome the denial of authorization without something more. A few sessions ago Governor Dip proposed a bill expressly allowing an income tax but setting it at 0% as a compromise as an attempt to try and give the southernern chamber the future option to assess an income tax. That bill failed though.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

At this point I closed the tabling vote, but now I realize that that it was a mistake doing so. Do I have the option of reviving the bill and putting it back up for debate?

[Mr. Reactionary]

At this point I closed the tabling vote, but now I realize that that it was a mistake doing so. Do I have the option of reviving the bill and putting it back up for debate?

If not just copy paste it into the legislation introduction thread and repost it or find someone to place it in the citizen referral thread

[tmthforu94]

Yeah I don't think it is appropriate that a tax can be snuck back in through passing a budget, the budget should reflect statue law.

I just reintroduced this. TimTurner, if there isn't an available slot, please use the Governor's slot so we can get this passed quickly. Thanks.