Georgia's Very Own Megathread! (v2)

[Rookie Yinzer]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

[Calthrina950]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

[Pericles]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

Wow, someone not just rolling over after an election got rigged against them and an Atlas poster(who is a good poster imo) getting under your skin is enough to make you oppose a candidate. Not you know, whether their policies would improve people's lives(yes), or any substance of the issues.

[Morning in Atlas]

#KempForPrison tbh

[Calthrina950]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

Wow, someone not just rolling over after an election got rigged against them and an Atlas poster(who is a good poster imo) getting under your skin is enough to make you oppose a candidate. Not you know, whether their policies would improve people's lives(yes), or any substance of the issues.

An election rigged against them? If that were the case, how did Democrats manage to win GA-06 and almost flip GA-07? What about the margins in the Atlanta suburbs? I dislike Kemp, and I wouldn't have voted for him if I lived in Georgia. But Abrams has disgraced herself by her behavior through this entire process. Her calls for a "do over" and her refusal to officially concede, along with her blatant and repeated attacks against her political opponents, to say nothing of her personal financial issues, all have lowered my views of her. And the posturing of the people on here, crying about voter suppression and "evil" Republicans, has only magnified that view.

[lfromnj]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

Wow, someone not just rolling over after an election got rigged against them and an Atlas poster(who is a good poster imo) getting under your skin is enough to make you oppose a candidate. Not you know, whether their policies would improve people's lives(yes), or any substance of the issues.

An election rigged against them? If that were the case, how did Democrats manage to win GA-06 and almost flip GA-07? What about the margins in the Atlanta suburbs? I dislike Kemp, and I wouldn't have voted for him if I lived in Georgia. But Abrams has disgraced herself by her behavior through this entire process. Her calls for a "do over" and her refusal to officially concede, along with her blatant and repeated attacks against her political opponents, to say nothing of her personal financial issues, all have lowered my views of her. And the posturing of the people on here, crying about voter suppression and "evil" Republicans, has only magnified that view.

yeah its clear Kemp was within the bounds of the law with the purging and Abrams is a sore loser. If the elections were so rigged why would Mcbath win?

[Virginiá]

I don't know if 'rigged' is the right word here, because to me that indicates that the people in power schemed and put into effect a plan to ensure a win save for exceptional circumstances. What Kemp did here seems more like putting his thumb on the scale and abusing power to slowly whittle down Abrams' vote share as much as he could get away with.

Other than outright mass fraud, gerrymandering is absolutely something I would consider election rigging, though. That's how you end up with Democrats winning far less seats than they should under any plausible neutral-ish maps, and the reasons why this happens are very clear. They might as well be stuffing ballot boxes with how effective it is.

[Antonio the Sixth]

People who had a right to vote were prevented from voting. I don't give a flying f**k if it's technically "legal" or not (guess what, dipsh*ts, slavery and Jim Crow were also "legal") - it is and always will be illegitimate.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Bradley effect happened in MD, in 2006, where, Mfume, who said he was adamant against Iraq War. Whereas, Cardin, said he was against it, and voted to fund troops. MD Dems wanted a progressive, instead got Cardin. Blacks aren't happy with Cardin. Rashurn Baker would have done better against Hogan.

[Rookie Yinzer]

People who had a right to vote were prevented from voting. I don't give a flying f**k if it's technically "legal" or not (guess what, dipsh*ts, slavery and Jim Crow were also "legal") - it is and always will be illegitimate.

He had 300,000 people wrongfully removed claiming they moved when they didn’t. When his “exact match” policy was ruled as being discriminatory the state legislature just rammed it through and made it law. Like you said, just because something is “the law” doesn’t make it right. But according to that poster we should remain “civil” because they used formal procedure to take incivil actions against us.

[Virginiá]

IMO, the proper way to look at it is that in a just world, around this time, Kemp would be standing in front of a judge as he is indicted for corruption. I don't think what he did was insurmountable but you also have to consider that Kemp has a history of abusing power, including using his power to initiate (directly or indirectly) criminal investigations of regular voters/local politicians/activists who had the audacity to try and bring change to the political process:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/av4nzb/the-quitman-10-2-and-voter-suppression-in-modern-georgia-715

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/georgia-fraud-probe-targets-black-voter-registration-group

And everything that happened this year.

But because this is America, of course it's allowed. This country's record on voting rights and fair elections is legitimately sickening and continues to be to this day.

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1064167400621449217

[Sbane]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

Voter suppression. I am very glad Abrams has filed a lawsuit. Things have to change in Georgia. We can't just accept the return of Jim Crow without fighting back.

[Sbane]

I don't know if 'rigged' is the right word here, because to me that indicates that the people in power schemed and put into effect a plan to ensure a win save for exceptional circumstances. What Kemp did here seems more like putting his thumb on the scale and abusing power to slowly whittle down Abrams' vote share as much as he could get away with.

Other than outright mass fraud, gerrymandering is absolutely something I would consider election rigging, though. That's how you end up with Democrats winning far less seats than they should under any plausible neutral-ish maps, and the reasons why this happens are very clear. They might as well be stuffing ballot boxes with how effective it is.

Yup, even without stuffing ballot boxes, these tactics used by the Republicans can be just as effective at subverting the wishes of the voting population. That is exactly how Jim Crow laws worked as well.

[Torrain]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

You must see that gleeful schadenfreude over someone’s favourite candidate losing is exactly the kind of pearl-clutching ‘nastiness’ you decry so often. I’m sorry about the mistaken identity, but names with an ‘a’ suffix do imply female bearers in most English/French/Spanish cases, so it’s clearly an honest mistake.

Anyway, Abrams was well within her rights to wait and let a full picture of the race develop befor she conceded. Was she overconfident? Probably. But she knew she was running against a man who was inclined and willing to disenfranchise those who opposed him, and quite rightly felt wronged by the whole affair. And without a runoff in the picture, I imagine she’d have conceded a week ago.

[Hindsight was 2020]

I’d love to hear John “racism is over” Roberts take on Kemp’s actions   

[Calthrina950]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

You must see that gleeful schadenfreude over someone’s favourite candidate losing is exactly the kind of pearl-clutching ‘nastiness’ you decry so often. I’m sorry about the mistaken identity, but names with an ‘a’ suffix do imply female bearers in most English/French/Spanish cases, so it’s clearly an honest mistake.

Anyway, Abrams was well within her rights to wait and let a full picture of the race develop befor she conceded. Was she overconfident? Probably. But she knew she was running against a man who was inclined and willing to disenfranchise those who opposed him, and quite rightly felt wronged by the whole affair. And without a runoff in the picture, I imagine she’d have conceded a week ago.

At this point, I've given up trying to be nice to my detractors on here. Given how they have behaved, they don't deserve any respect from me.

[Politician]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

You must see that gleeful schadenfreude over someone’s favourite candidate losing is exactly the kind of pearl-clutching ‘nastiness’ you decry so often. I’m sorry about the mistaken identity, but names with an ‘a’ suffix do imply female bearers in most English/French/Spanish cases, so it’s clearly an honest mistake.

Anyway, Abrams was well within her rights to wait and let a full picture of the race develop befor she conceded. Was she overconfident? Probably. But she knew she was running against a man who was inclined and willing to disenfranchise those who opposed him, and quite rightly felt wronged by the whole affair. And without a runoff in the picture, I imagine she’d have conceded a week ago.

At this point, I've given up trying to be nice to my detractors on here. Given how they have behaved, they don't deserve any respect from me.

MUH AD HOMINEM ATTACKS

I'm pretty sure if a Democrat had illegitimately won an election by 1% you would be fuming "THE EVUL SOCIALIST DEMONCRATS STOLE THE ELECTION FROM MUH RIGHTFUL REPUBLICAN WINNER"

[Calthrina950]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

You must see that gleeful schadenfreude over someone’s favourite candidate losing is exactly the kind of pearl-clutching ‘nastiness’ you decry so often. I’m sorry about the mistaken identity, but names with an ‘a’ suffix do imply female bearers in most English/French/Spanish cases, so it’s clearly an honest mistake.

Anyway, Abrams was well within her rights to wait and let a full picture of the race develop befor she conceded. Was she overconfident? Probably. But she knew she was running against a man who was inclined and willing to disenfranchise those who opposed him, and quite rightly felt wronged by the whole affair. And without a runoff in the picture, I imagine she’d have conceded a week ago.

At this point, I've given up trying to be nice to my detractors on here. Given how they have behaved, they don't deserve any respect from me.

MUH AD HOMINEM ATTACKS

I'm pretty sure if a Democrat had illegitimately won an election by 1% you would be fuming "THE EVUL SOCIALIST DEMONCRATS STOLE THE ELECTION FROM MUH RIGHTFUL REPUBLICAN WINNER"

No, I would not be. That is a gross distortion of my viewpoints. But at any rate, the continued reactions people are giving me on here only deepens my sanctification that the Democrats failed with Abrams.

[ON Progressive]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

You must see that gleeful schadenfreude over someone’s favourite candidate losing is exactly the kind of pearl-clutching ‘nastiness’ you decry so often. I’m sorry about the mistaken identity, but names with an ‘a’ suffix do imply female bearers in most English/French/Spanish cases, so it’s clearly an honest mistake.

Anyway, Abrams was well within her rights to wait and let a full picture of the race develop befor she conceded. Was she overconfident? Probably. But she knew she was running against a man who was inclined and willing to disenfranchise those who opposed him, and quite rightly felt wronged by the whole affair. And without a runoff in the picture, I imagine she’d have conceded a week ago.

At this point, I've given up trying to be nice to my detractors on here. Given how they have behaved, they don't deserve any respect from me.

MUH AD HOMINEM ATTACKS

I'm pretty sure if a Democrat had illegitimately won an election by 1% you would be fuming "THE EVUL SOCIALIST DEMONCRATS STOLE THE ELECTION FROM MUH RIGHTFUL REPUBLICAN WINNER"

No, I would not be. That is a gross distortion of my viewpoints. But at any rate, the continued reactions people are giving me on here only deepens my sanctification that the Democrats failed with Abrams.

So you're happy that a reactionary like Brian Kemp won because people are upset that a reactionary won? How moderate of you!

Moderates always have and always will be useless against the far right, and that's been true throughout all of modern history.

[Bidenworth2020]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

You must see that gleeful schadenfreude over someone’s favourite candidate losing is exactly the kind of pearl-clutching ‘nastiness’ you decry so often. I’m sorry about the mistaken identity, but names with an ‘a’ suffix do imply female bearers in most English/French/Spanish cases, so it’s clearly an honest mistake.

Anyway, Abrams was well within her rights to wait and let a full picture of the race develop befor she conceded. Was she overconfident? Probably. But she knew she was running against a man who was inclined and willing to disenfranchise those who opposed him, and quite rightly felt wronged by the whole affair. And without a runoff in the picture, I imagine she’d have conceded a week ago.

At this point, I've given up trying to be nice to my detractors on here. Given how they have behaved, they don't deserve any respect from me.

MUH AD HOMINEM ATTACKS

I'm pretty sure if a Democrat had illegitimately won an election by 1% you would be fuming "THE EVUL SOCIALIST DEMONCRATS STOLE THE ELECTION FROM MUH RIGHTFUL REPUBLICAN WINNER"

No, I would not be. That is a gross distortion of my viewpoints. But at any rate, the continued reactions people are giving me on here only deepens my sanctification that the Democrats failed with Abrams.

Dude, she came closest to winning for a democrat since 1998. And this is a black woman democrat. In no way has she "failed".

[Calthrina950]

Kemp is and always will be an illegitimate Governor.

How?

The only reason he avoided a runoff is through massive voter suppression.

That poster prefers to be willfully ignorant about the calculated actions of the GOP to keep “unfavorables” from voting. Don’t even bother with her.

Of course, he's a Reasonable Pragmatic Republican. Reasonable Pragmatic Republicans' motto has always been "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".

RFKFan68's beloved Stacey Abrams lost. Given his nastiness on this forum, towards me and towards many others, I am actually glad that she did. Her classless concession speech only further confirms that impression with me. And once again, my gender has been confused...

You must see that gleeful schadenfreude over someone’s favourite candidate losing is exactly the kind of pearl-clutching ‘nastiness’ you decry so often. I’m sorry about the mistaken identity, but names with an ‘a’ suffix do imply female bearers in most English/French/Spanish cases, so it’s clearly an honest mistake.

Anyway, Abrams was well within her rights to wait and let a full picture of the race develop befor she conceded. Was she overconfident? Probably. But she knew she was running against a man who was inclined and willing to disenfranchise those who opposed him, and quite rightly felt wronged by the whole affair. And without a runoff in the picture, I imagine she’d have conceded a week ago.

At this point, I've given up trying to be nice to my detractors on here. Given how they have behaved, they don't deserve any respect from me.

MUH AD HOMINEM ATTACKS

I'm pretty sure if a Democrat had illegitimately won an election by 1% you would be fuming "THE EVUL SOCIALIST DEMONCRATS STOLE THE ELECTION FROM MUH RIGHTFUL REPUBLICAN WINNER"

No, I would not be. That is a gross distortion of my viewpoints. But at any rate, the continued reactions people are giving me on here only deepens my sanctification that the Democrats failed with Abrams.

Dude, she came closest to winning for a democrat since 1998. And this is a black woman democrat. In no way has she "failed".

"Coming close" isn't the same as "actually winning".  The way she's been acting since the election is by no means commendable.

[Sestak]

This is ridiculous. If what Kemp has done is allowed to continue, there will never be a competitive statewide election in Georgia - they'll offset population growth in Atlanta by disenfranchising more and more people. Someone needs to stand up and fight this, and I'm glad Abrams is.

[Rookie Yinzer]

I love how moderate pragmatists tell people how to react to oppression and suppression while they remain silent against the very same systems.

“Be quiet and patient while I do nothing “

I also find it odd that a self proclaimed woman of color would rejoice that the only candidate discussing Georgia’s third world maternal mortality rates lost to a candidate that trafficks in bigotry and literally had twelve black people arrested for registering people to vote.