Dutch man being prosecuted for insulting Erdogan

[parochial boy]

Like instances of libel or harrassment;

and the US does a better job on those than do the European countries.  The truth should always be able to be said, no matter how much damage it does to a person or group.  Yet you have "a right to be forgotten", which is funking stupid.

my point was more - if I start sending death threats at people on twitter, does that count under the auspices of "free speech", and if not, why not?
And I am not sure why EU data protection rules would have to do with free speech?

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you have no right to free speech in my front yard nor in my webspace.  It doesn't matter how popular my front yard or webpage becomes. (if I was the only person with a front yard or webpage, sure, then something should be done, but that's not and never will be the case)  Not letting you speak on/in my property is not limiting your free speech.
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But if denying access to your property does actually deny them access to an audience, then in practice it does.

I don't actually know what I feel about this, but you have to admit there is some degree of ambiguity.

[dead0man]

my point was more - if I start sending death threats at people on twitter, does that count under the auspices of "free speech", and if not, why not?

I never said there were no limits to speech.  Screaming at my house from the side walk that you want to murder my children non-stop will eventually get your speech limited.  By me or the cops, depending on how well I asses my ability to handle you.  There are limits to speech here in the US, and I generally agree with those limits.

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I should be able to say a truth even if it might make some Spanish dentist look bad.  It shouldn't matter if it happened 10 years ago.  The only reason "the truth" should be suppressed (that I can think of right now) are for national security reasons and, theoretically, certain court cases (but I'm not sure about that one, I had something, but I think I've forgotten it now).  If I can't say a truth because it might embarrass some jerk who did an embarrassing thing a long time ago, as is the case in the EU right now, that is limiting my speech.

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you don't have a right to an audience I earned.  Why would you?

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indeed.

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People should be accountable for their words and this is why you can get sued for libel/defamation. But prosecuting under any "insult" law simply goes against the very ideas of free speech. More: definitions can be so vague it's actually a direct threat for them. Also, decisions whether to prosecute or not are too arbitrary (and politically determined) to talk about any fairness.

I mean, under those rules ("insulting leader of a friendly state") millions of Europeans should be prosecuted for insulting Trump on a daily basis, including yours truly.