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« on: September 06, 2018, 12:58:43 PM »

http://innovationohio.org/2018/09/06/new-poll-shows-tied-gubernatorial-race-close-races-up-and-down-the-ballot/

Aug. 31-Sep. 4,  822 likely voters

Brown 46
Renacci 42

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 01:13:56 PM »

Isn't change research a Republican pollster?
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2018, 01:16:29 PM »

https://medium.com/@ChngRsrch/change-research-only-pollster-to-call-florida-primary-for-gillum-13c341d218c0
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2018, 01:18:43 PM »
« Edited: September 06, 2018, 01:21:44 PM by Unbeatable Kevin Stitt »


Safe D, obviously. Brown won't lose.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 01:36:24 PM »

This probably means one of three things, given that the national GOP has pretty much given up on Renacci.

1. There's been some enormous shift in the national environment and/or a major Sherrod Brown scandal I haven't heard of.

2. This is a sh**tty pollster.

3. The Democratic Party released this poll to make it look like there's blood in the water in Ohio, in order to get the GOP to spend there rather than in other Senate battlegrounds.

I think option 2 is the most likely one. That said, the Democrats should absolutely not take this seat for granted, given that Trump won in Ohio by 8 points.
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2018, 01:47:28 PM »

Brown is favored, but closer to Tester/Manchin favored than Stabenow/Baldwin/Casey favored. Lean D.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2018, 01:48:55 PM »


Emerson and Gravis had some good results too but nobody would mistake them for quality pollsters.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2018, 02:33:50 PM »

This was always going to get closer, weak lean D.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2018, 03:08:36 PM »

If Democrats have a lackluster night, this result wouldn't be implausible, but I definitely don't see Brown losing. Likely D.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2018, 03:20:32 PM »

Not a shock considering how much Dems have abandoned the Rust Belt with their economic centrist/Wall Street  kick they've been on lately. Pure toss-up...heading towards Lean R if this trend keeps at it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2018, 03:26:51 PM »

Not a shock considering how much Dems have abandoned the Rust Belt with their economic centrist/Wall Street  kick they've been on lately. Pure toss-up...heading towards Lean R if this trend keeps at it.

Tossup because of a single outlier poll from a garbage firm? LMAO.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2018, 03:27:48 PM »

Change is a very bad firm with a terrible record.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2018, 03:28:32 PM »

Not a shock considering how much Dems have abandoned the Rust Belt with their economic centrist/Wall Street  kick they've been on lately. Pure toss-up...heading towards Lean R if this trend keeps at it.

Tossup because of a single outlier poll from a garbage firm? LMAO.
Funny how polls become garbage after they show something that wrecks narratives. Reminds me of the time everyone hated on Gold Standard Marquette after it showed Walker tied with Evers.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2018, 03:29:36 PM »

I see concern trolling is still alive and well on the congressional boards.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2018, 03:31:16 PM »

Funny how polls become garbage after they show something that wrecks narratives. Reminds me of the time everyone hated on Gold Standard Marquette after it showed Walker tied with Evers.

It's garbage because Change is a terrible firm. Any serious review of their record since their founding shows them more often than not being terribly off base.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2018, 03:32:24 PM »

Not a shock considering how much Dems have abandoned the Rust Belt with their economic centrist/Wall Street  kick they've been on lately. Pure toss-up...heading towards Lean R if this trend keeps at it.

Tossup because of a single outlier poll from a garbage firm? LMAO.
Funny how polls become garbage after they show something that wrecks narratives. Reminds me of the time everyone hated on Gold Standard Marquette after it showed Walker tied with Evers.

https://medium.com/@ChngRsrch/moore-holds-six-point-lead-on-election-eve-51c1f6502a4b
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x21Xkro409WL497_yzjXaA91QEnNjjvyRRjny0LIJxY/edit#gid=1057635540

https://www.scribd.com/document/385205055/MI-Gov-Change-Research-D-for-Abdul-El-Sayed-July-2018
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2018, 03:32:59 PM »

Change Research is a garbo pollster.  I know they came out months ago, but the last three polls of this race by legit pollsters had Brown up 13-17 points.  I could believe OH-Sen has tightened a bit from those kind of margins, but I really doubt there's been that significant of a shift here.  I'd need to see more polling data here before viewing this race as even somewhat competitive.
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2018, 03:36:42 PM »

Still likely Democratic. I expect Brown to win by high single digits. Maybe 52-44% or so.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2018, 04:49:03 PM »

If these people have the gov's mansion tied, things are looking good.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2018, 05:24:52 PM »

Brown is only ahead in a 279 friewal map, this race can get tight.
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2018, 11:38:38 PM »

Change isn't the greatest pollster (putting it mildly) but would this result really surprise you guys that much? Remember that Brown beat trash-tier candidate Josh Mandel by only 6 points in 2012, and Ohio has veered sharply to the right since then. Yeah, 2018 will likely be a better environment for Dems, but 2012 wasn't exactly a poor environment for Senate Democrats either. I've always thought this race was going to narrow. I'd be way more shocked at Brown winning by double digits than I would be at him winning by 4.
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2018, 11:43:36 PM »

New Poll: Ohio Senator by Other Source on 2018-09-04

Summary: D: 46%, R: 42%, U: 12%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2018, 01:44:17 AM »

This was always going to get closer, weak lean D.

Just stop Limo Lib....er, Bagel.
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2018, 02:41:19 AM »

Brown is running a better campaign than Cordray
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2018, 12:49:23 PM »

Change isn't the greatest pollster (putting it mildly) but would this result really surprise you guys that much? Remember that Brown beat trash-tier candidate Josh Mandel by only 6 points in 2012, and Ohio has veered sharply to the right since then. Yeah, 2018 will likely be a better environment for Dems, but 2012 wasn't exactly a poor environment for Senate Democrats either. I've always thought this race was going to narrow. I'd be way more shocked at Brown winning by double digits than I would be at him winning by 4.

Right now it's an outlier. Every other poll has had Brown double digits
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