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« on: July 06, 2018, 01:50:37 PM »

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2018, 03:35:09 PM »

Just a suggestion: it might help if you explained yourself a little.

I think you are referring to the Fascist 'economics' practiced by Mussolini in Italy, but I'm not certain myself.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2018, 06:04:49 PM »

It's a terrible idea.

While I am favorable to some aspects of economic nationalism, the preference for state monopolies and or private sector monopolies sanctioned by the state is just terrible.

In any system my preference is for a competition based market, focused on smaller business and cooperative entities (where for-profit business cannot provide a choice to consumers).
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 12:57:45 AM »

I LITERALLY CLICKED HORRIBLE IDEA AND IT SHOWED UP AS FREEDOM IDEA
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2018, 10:23:57 AM »
« Edited: August 21, 2018, 10:29:26 AM by Classic Republican »

Freedom Idea. Corperations are what hold our Economy together, not the poor middle class. Corporations are the reason we have everything we have today. which is why why we should keep this practice and even cut taxes for corporations. Without Corperations The USA/Canada Could become Third world countries.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2018, 10:25:32 AM »

Freedom Idea. Wealthy People are what hold our Economy together, not the poor middle class. Corporations are the reason we have everything we have today without corparations, the west could become a third world continent.

L2Troll, please.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2018, 06:19:29 PM »

Freedom Idea. Wealthy People are what hold our Economy together, not the poor middle class. Corporations are the reason we have everything we have today without corparations, the west could become a third world continent.

L2Troll, please.

I am Serious.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2018, 11:04:20 PM »

Freedom Idea. Corperations are what hold our Economy together, not the poor middle class. Corporations are the reason we have everything we have today. which is why why we should keep this practice and even cut taxes for corporations. Without Corperations The USA/Canada Could become Third world countries.

Voting rights for women? Corporations

Civil Rights? Corporations

Marriage equality? Corporations

Universal literacy? Obviously Corporations

Minimum wage? Definitely Corporations

Collective Bargaining? You guessed it, Walmart!

Weekends? McDonalds

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I don't know if you're a troll account run by some guy in his 30s or you are genuinely a naive, brainwashed 14 year old who listens to everything his parents say. Most Republican kids know better than this and you either don't or are a perfect imitation of a neocon youth

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2018, 06:21:37 PM »

I've always associated "corporatism" with the economic approach of Mussolini and Hitler. So, clearly horrible....
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2018, 10:13:38 PM »

Freedom Idea. Corperations are what hold our Economy together, not the poor middle class. Corporations are the reason we have everything we have today. which is why why we should keep this practice and even cut taxes for corporations. Without Corporations The USA/Canada Could become Third world countries.

Horrible idea. The idea of government representing economic ownership and institutional power instead of the people is a new form of feudalism. People have good cause to not fully trust ownership and management of their employers to represent the social optimum. Besides, a miner and a steel worker probably have more in common with each other than they have with the mine owner and a mill owner, respectively. Class identity is real, as says the late Paul Fussell, from top to bottom:

1. Upper out-of-sight... really, really old money that does not go in for lavish display.

2. Upper -- people rich without ever been a member of any 'lower' class, of course through inheritance. Business executives are often here.

3. Upper-middle -- successful entrepreneurs who have 'made it' of their own efforts and high-level entrepreneurs (typically in medicine and law, also the successful university professors)

4. Middle -- small-business owners, professionals less successful (like accountants, dentists,  engineers, geologists, computer programmers, and most 'educators') and successful salespeople

-- There is no lower middle class, a class that existed when clerks had the privilege of 'solid' high-school educations. Teachers and engineers have gone middle-class, and clerks have gone typically into the class of their spouses.

5. High-prole: skilled workers, blue-collar supervisors, operators of really-complex machinery (like construction cranes and locomotives), nurses, police, fire-fighters, and prison guards

6. Mid-prole: semi-skilled workers who operate machines (even if the machines are cash registers or taxi cabs) or work on assembly lines

7. Low-prole. Laborers, cleaners, and servants who have at least seasonal work.

8. Destitute. People who depend upon suspect income, such as welfare or crime; the homeless. They manage to keep nominal freedom. Even gangsters who might have huge incomes typically have the hallmarks of this class: little education, low intelligence, and superstition.

9. Bottom out-of-sight. Such people are incarcerated in prisons, mental wards, and  long-term hospital care.

...Does anyone think that a construction laborer who pushes a wheelbarrow has much in common with the real estate tycoon, or that a dairy laborer has much in common with the owner of the dairy? Corporatism suggests such.   
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2018, 12:52:47 AM »

Corporatism and crony capitalism is so hilariously backwards and flawed it ceases to even be capitalism.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2018, 11:23:20 PM »

absolutely horrible idea. Corporatism has been one of the great failures of the modern age. It has created an increasingly individualistic, social darwinist dog-eat-dog world where the idiotic Victorian notion that "those who don't get ahead don't deserve to" (which had previously been laughable in serious debate) has become popular even with a lot of people on the so-called "left".

For the record: a lot of the working-class anger and resentment which Trump channeled into racist bigotry is caused by the corporate ideology treating the working class like obsolete neanderthals doomed to extinction by the force of "progress".
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2018, 08:13:42 PM »

Horrible idea. As long as corporations exist, people will be exploited and wealth will be unfairly distributed.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2018, 09:33:39 AM »

Freedom Idea. Corperations are what hold our Economy together, not the poor middle class. Corporations are the reason we have everything we have today. which is why why we should keep this practice and even cut taxes for corporations. Without Corperations The USA/Canada Could become Third world countries.

Voting rights for women? Corporations

Civil Rights? Corporations

Marriage equality? Corporations

Universal literacy? Obviously Corporations

Minimum wage? Definitely Corporations

Collective Bargaining? You guessed it, Walmart!

Weekends? McDonalds

/s

I don't know if you're a troll account run by some guy in his 30s or you are genuinely a naive, brainwashed 14 year old who listens to everything his parents say. Most Republican kids know better than this and you either don't or are a perfect imitation of a neocon youth



My Parents are Democrats...
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2018, 02:38:44 PM »

This is a terrible thread because the term "corporatism" used to refer to late nineteenth and early twentieth century Catholic political economy has fallen completely out of use. Everyone thinks the OP means crony capitalism.
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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2018, 11:43:10 AM »

This is a terrible thread because the term "corporatism" used to refer to late nineteenth and early twentieth century Catholic political economy has fallen completely out of use. Everyone thinks the OP means crony capitalism.

Agreed. Corporatism as the Catholic political economic ideology are massive freedom economics; corporatism as in crony capitalism are horrible economics.
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2018, 11:23:45 PM »

Corporatism might indeed be preferable to the crony capitalist unrestricted free market with scant labor unions that we have here, because at least in that system labor has a guaranteed seat at the bargaining table.
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