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« on: September 18, 2018, 11:51:08 am »
« edited: September 18, 2018, 12:16:09 pm by Cruz Will Win 👁 »

https://poll.qu.edu/texas/release-detail?ReleaseID=2570

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 11:53:52 am »

I am disappointed because personally I would like Beto to win, but on the other hand LMAO at all those who were seriously thinking Beto can win.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 11:54:55 am »

Looks like TX isn't turning blue.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 11:55:11 am »

The BBQ attacks have worked!
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 11:57:42 am »


The people have spoken: Hands off our BBQ!
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 11:58:59 am »

I wonder how they choose the likely voter screen, for if its based on 2014/2016, like Marquette, then this poll is garbage. I would hope its done by personal responses, and voting in 2016.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 11:59:21 am »

Worse than I thought I guess the undecideds were Republicans breaking for Cruz.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 11:59:40 am »

I wonder how they choose the likely voter screen, for if its based on 2014/2016, like Marquette, then this poll is garbage. I would hope its done by personal responses, and voting in 2016.

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2018, 12:00:49 pm »

Who would've thought that undecided voters in Texas will lean R?
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2018, 12:01:09 pm »

How the hell does Cruz have above water approval after all his bootlicking and general oxygen thievery. Good ole Texas.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2018, 12:01:13 pm »

This feels like a realistic result; albeit disappointing.  One would expect a poll like this if this is a narrow cruz win by 4/5 points to balance out the Cruz+1/2/3 polls.

Regardless, Atlas will now treat this result as the new standard and act as if the dynamics of the race have changed.  Until we get a Cruz+2 poll by literally any pollster at which point everyone will act like it's a horse-race again.

Good point.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2018, 12:01:31 pm »

This seems like an outlier, but you’d rather have outliers in the right direction rather than this.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2018, 12:03:51 pm »

I'm going to put this in the "lean trash, closer to likely trash than tossup" column of polls. because it shows a result i don't like

I doubt that like, literally every poll from the past month has been heavily overestimating Beto.
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2018, 12:03:56 pm »

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2018, 12:04:06 pm »

I wonder how they choose the likely voter screen, for if its based on 2014/2016, like Marquette, then this poll is garbage. I would hope its done by personal responses, and voting in 2016.

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geez, I was just posing a question. Its self-identified, BTW, so the result is most likely correct.

Edit: Also, Im pretty sure asking the voters who voted in 2014 as a screen is a bad idea in a Democratic wave year.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2018, 12:04:43 pm »

I will say that Republicans are behaving as if the race is closer than a 9-point lead for Cruz.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2018, 12:05:08 pm »

I will say that Republicans are behaving as if the race is closer than a 9-point lead for Cruz.

It's good to have a veil of caution in this environment.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2018, 12:05:08 pm »

Beto is finished

Hes no match for masterdebator Cruz
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2018, 12:06:11 pm »

The one point for hope for Beto/Dems in this poll is that it has virtually no undecideds. There are 3rd party candidates on the ballot, and those will in reality get at least some votes. Also, by election day the undecideds could possibly break somewhat differently than ones who were apparently pushed in this poll and chose Cruz.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2018, 12:06:19 pm »

This feels like a realistic result; albeit disappointing.  One would expect a poll like this if this is a narrow cruz win by 4/5 points to balance out the Cruz+1/2/3 polls.

Regardless, Atlas will now treat this result as the new standard and act as if the dynamics of the race have changed.  Until we get a Cruz+2 poll by literally any pollster at which point everyone will act like it's a horse-race again.

I suppose it could be an outlier.

It is, however, the only poll we have taken after labor day (which we know a lot of users around here value more than August polls). There's also the fact that far more voters are familiar with O'Rourke now and he still hasn't gotten more than 45% in a poll. So, for all we know, these could be the new dynamics of the race.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2018, 12:07:46 pm »

This feels like a realistic result; albeit disappointing.  One would expect a poll like this if this is a narrow cruz win by 4/5 points to balance out the Cruz+1/2/3 polls.

Regardless, Atlas will now treat this result as the new standard and act as if the dynamics of the race have changed.  Until we get a Cruz+2 poll by literally any pollster at which point everyone will act like it's a horse-race again.

I suppose it could be an outlier.

It is, however, the only poll we have taken after labor day (which we know a lot of users around here value more than August polls). There's also the fact that far more voters are familiar with O'Rourke now and he still hasn't gotten more than 45% in a poll. So, for all we know, these could be the new dynamics of the race.

I agree with Yeah. This is one of, maybe the only, likely voter poll we have of the race, so this one has much more weight to it than the registered voter polls we have gotten.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2018, 12:09:37 pm »

I'm going to put this in the "lean trash, closer to likely trash than tossup" column of polls. because it shows a result i don't like

I doubt that like, literally every poll from the past month has been heavily overestimating Beto.

The difference between this and other polls is primarily that there are many fewer undecideds. Beto is at 45% in this, it is very hard (pretty much unprecedented in recent history except for 1 or 2 downballot races) for a Dem to get anything more than that in TX.
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2018, 12:25:17 pm »

I'm going to put this in the "lean trash, closer to likely trash than tossup" column of polls. because it shows a result i don't like

I doubt that like, literally every poll from the past month has been heavily overestimating Beto.

The difference between this and other polls is primarily that there are many fewer undecideds. Beto is at 45% in this, it is very hard (pretty much unprecedented in recent history except for 1 or 2 downballot races) for a Dem to get anything more than that in TX.
true, but I still have doubts about this poll.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2018, 12:28:41 pm »

Well, congrats, Impartial Spectator. The small number of undecideds in this poll is weird, but Cruz is undeniably favored, and I highly doubt he loses at this point.
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2018, 12:40:32 pm »

It remains favorable to the incumbent, however Cruz' chances are overrated in this poll.
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