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« Reply #50 on: October 17, 2018, 06:09:55 PM »

As for the polls, AFAIK there was very little polling in Luxembourg, are they heavily restricted/banned?
No, but the country is relatively insignificant and small, and its politics are very stable, so the stakes were not high and few people were apparently willing to invest in polls.

I wouldn't call Luxembourg "insignificant", since it has long been having influence over European politics that's far exceeding its actual size. I do agree about its politics being very stable, which makes any election unlikely to change the status quo.

On an unrelated note, aren't Ireland and Luxembourg the only EU countries never to have a socialist/social democratic head of government, of am I missing another example?
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« Reply #51 on: October 17, 2018, 06:28:49 PM »

As for the polls, AFAIK there was very little polling in Luxembourg, are they heavily restricted/banned?
No, but the country is relatively insignificant and small, and its politics are very stable, so the stakes were not high and few people were apparently willing to invest in polls.

I wouldn't call Luxembourg "insignificant", since it has long been having influence over European politics that's far exceeding its actual size. I do agree about its politics being very stable, which makes any election unlikely to change the status quo.

On an unrelated note, aren't Ireland and Luxembourg the only EU countries never to have a socialist/social democratic head of government, of am I missing another example?

Latvia and Estonia.
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« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2018, 06:37:40 PM »

Well, those 2 did have a communist dictatorship for a long while if you want to count their time in the USSR
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« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2018, 07:10:44 PM »

Well, those 2 did have a communist dictatorship for a long while if you want to count their time in the USSR

You don't, since we were talking about actual countries with their own head of government.
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« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2018, 08:57:55 PM »

As for the polls, AFAIK there was very little polling in Luxembourg, are they heavily restricted/banned?
No, but the country is relatively insignificant and small, and its politics are very stable, so the stakes were not high and few people were apparently willing to invest in polls.

I wouldn't call Luxembourg "insignificant", since it has long been having influence over European politics that's far exceeding its actual size. I do agree about its politics being very stable, which makes any election unlikely to change the status quo.

On an unrelated note, aren't Ireland and Luxembourg the only EU countries never to have a socialist/social democratic head of government, of am I missing another example?

Latvia and Estonia.
Also Portugal and Spain
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« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2018, 09:02:13 PM »

As for the polls, AFAIK there was very little polling in Luxembourg, are they heavily restricted/banned?
No, but the country is relatively insignificant and small, and its politics are very stable, so the stakes were not high and few people were apparently willing to invest in polls.

I wouldn't call Luxembourg "insignificant", since it has long been having influence over European politics that's far exceeding its actual size. I do agree about its politics being very stable, which makes any election unlikely to change the status quo.

On an unrelated note, aren't Ireland and Luxembourg the only EU countries never to have a socialist/social democratic head of government, of am I missing another example?

Latvia and Estonia.
Also Portugal and Spain

What are you talking about? Both the PSOE and PS have led governments.
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« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2018, 08:55:05 AM »

Ireland had Sinn Fein chiefs of government and for pratical purpose this can count almost as social democratic  if not more left wing
Also Latvia get its social democratic head of government in the republic after the first secession from the Russia
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« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2018, 11:17:14 AM »

Ireland had Sinn Fein chiefs of government and for pratical purpose this can count almost as social democratic  if not more left wing
Also Latvia get its social democratic head of government in the republic after the first secession from the Russia

The historical SF was not left wing.
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« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2018, 11:32:17 AM »

Finland has first socialist Prime minister among EU countries, but only two times left-wing majority in parliament since independence, last time 1968.
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« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2018, 01:28:49 PM »

Finland has first socialist Prime minister among EU countries, but only two times left-wing majority in parliament since independence, last time 1968.
Clearly a very different criterion than just having had a socialist or social democratic head of govt.
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« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2018, 04:33:12 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2018, 04:38:38 PM by Kalwejt »

Finland has first socialist Prime minister among EU countries, but only two times left-wing majority in parliament since independence, last time 1968.

Wrong. Poland, Germany and Austria had their first socialist/social democratic head of government in 1918 (Ignacy Daszyński, Friedrich Ebert and Karl Renner respectively).

I assume you were referring to Tanner, who only became PM in 1926. And it's not the first among Scandinavian countries either (see Hjalmar Branting in 1920).
 
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« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2018, 05:15:43 PM »

Finland has first socialist Prime minister among EU countries, but only two times left-wing majority in parliament since independence, last time 1968.

Wrong. Poland, Germany and Austria had their first socialist/social democratic head of government in 1918 (Ignacy Daszyński, Friedrich Ebert and Karl Renner respectively).

I assume you were referring to Tanner, who only became PM in 1926. And it's not the first among Scandinavian countries either (see Hjalmar Branting in 1920).
 


Even friggin Ramsay MacDonald had been earlier than Tanner.
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« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2018, 06:33:19 PM »

Finland has first socialist Prime minister among EU countries, but only two times left-wing majority in parliament since independence, last time 1968.

Wrong. Poland, Germany and Austria had their first socialist/social democratic head of government in 1918 (Ignacy Daszyński, Friedrich Ebert and Karl Renner respectively).

I assume you were referring to Tanner, who only became PM in 1926. And it's not the first among Scandinavian countries either (see Hjalmar Branting in 1920).
 


Even friggin Ramsay MacDonald had been earlier than Tanner.

Let's just do a recap of first socialist/social democratic/labor heads of government of EU countries:

Austria: Karl Renner (1918-1920)
Belgium: Paul-Henri Spaak (1938-1939)
Bulgaria: Andrey Lukanov (1990)
Croatia: Ivica Račan (2000-2003)
Cyprus: Never
Czech Republic: Miloš Zeman (1998-2002)
Denmark: Thorvald Stauning (1924-1926)
Estonia: Otto August Strandman (1919)
Finland: Väinö Tanner (1926-1927)
France: Aristide Briand (1909–1911) or Léon Blum (1936-1918) [Briand may be considered a socialist/social democrat by some measures, but Blum headed a decisively socialist party]
Germany: Friedrich Ebert (1918-1919)
Greece: Alexandros Papanastasiou (1932)
Hungary: Miklós Németh (1989-1990)
Ireland: Never
Italy: Ivanoe Bonomi (1921-1922)
Latvia: Never
Lithuania: Adolfas Šleževičius (1996)
Luxembourg: Never
Malta: Paul Boffa (1947-1950, while still under British rule) or Dom Mintoff (1971-1984, after the independence)
Netherlands: Willem Schermerhorn (1946-1947)
Poland: Ignacy Daszyński (1918)
Portugal: A bit crazy due to earlier parties, so I'll go with Mario Soares (1976-1978)
Romania: Nicolae Văcăroiu (1992-1996)
Slovakia: Robert Fico (2006-2010)
Slovenia: Borut Pahor (2008-2012)
Spain: Manuel Azańa (1931-1933)
Sweden: Hjalmar Branting (1920)
United Kingdom: Ramsay MacDonald (1924)


I probably missed something, so please feel free to correct me.
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« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2018, 09:22:51 PM »

Finland has first socialist Prime minister among EU countries, but only two times left-wing majority in parliament since independence, last time 1968.

Wrong. Poland, Germany and Austria had their first socialist/social democratic head of government in 1918 (Ignacy Daszyński, Friedrich Ebert and Karl Renner respectively).

I assume you were referring to Tanner, who only became PM in 1926. And it's not the first among Scandinavian countries either (see Hjalmar Branting in 1920).
 


Even friggin Ramsay MacDonald had been earlier than Tanner.

Let's just do a recap of first socialist/social democratic/labor heads of government of EU countries:

Austria: Karl Renner (1918-1920)
Belgium: Paul-Henri Spaak (1938-1939)
Bulgaria: Andrey Lukanov (1990)
Croatia: Ivica Račan (2000-2003)
Cyprus: Never
Czech Republic: Miloš Zeman (1998-2002)
Denmark: Thorvald Stauning (1924-1926)
Estonia: Otto August Strandman (1919)
Finland: Väinö Tanner (1926-1927)
France: Aristide Briand (1909–1911) or Léon Blum (1936-1918) [Briand may be considered a socialist/social democrat by some measures, but Blum headed a decisively socialist party]
Germany: Friedrich Ebert (1918-1919)
Greece: Alexandros Papanastasiou (1932)
Hungary: Miklós Németh (1989-1990)
Ireland: Never
Italy: Ivanoe Bonomi (1921-1922)
Latvia: Never
Lithuania: Adolfas Šleževičius (1996)
Luxembourg: Never
Malta: Paul Boffa (1947-1950, while still under British rule) or Dom Mintoff (1971-1984, after the independence)
Netherlands: Willem Schermerhorn (1946-1947)
Poland: Ignacy Daszyński (1918)
Portugal: A bit crazy due to earlier parties, so I'll go with Mario Soares (1976-1978)
Romania: Nicolae Văcăroiu (1992-1996)
Slovakia: Robert Fico (2006-2010)
Slovenia: Borut Pahor (2008-2012)
Spain: Manuel Azańa (1931-1933)
Sweden: Hjalmar Branting (1920)
United Kingdom: Ramsay MacDonald (1924)


I probably missed something, so please feel free to correct me.

Cyprus has had a left wing government though as the Progressive Party of Working People is a neo-Marxist one and they have formed government.  In Ireland and Luxembourg, never had a social democratic party as senior partner, but have multiple times as a junior partner.  Otherwise not like Canada and the US who at the federal level have never had a social democratic party in any government position whatsoever.
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« Reply #64 on: October 19, 2018, 12:15:29 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2018, 02:48:16 AM by Ethelberth »

I thought about Oskari Tokoi 1917. One of the reasons of radicalisation of SDP (and Civil War) was the fact that he was removed (and later new elections gave a new non-socialist majority for the Eduskunta).
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« Reply #65 on: October 19, 2018, 01:01:37 AM »

Finland has first socialist Prime minister among EU countries, but only two times left-wing majority in parliament since independence, last time 1968.

Wrong. Poland, Germany and Austria had their first socialist/social democratic head of government in 1918 (Ignacy Daszyński, Friedrich Ebert and Karl Renner respectively).

I assume you were referring to Tanner, who only became PM in 1926. And it's not the first among Scandinavian countries either (see Hjalmar Branting in 1920).
 


Even friggin Ramsay MacDonald had been earlier than Tanner.

Let's just do a recap of first socialist/social democratic/labor heads of government of EU countries:

Austria: Karl Renner (1918-1920)
Belgium: Paul-Henri Spaak (1938-1939)
Bulgaria: Andrey Lukanov (1990)
Croatia: Ivica Račan (2000-2003)
Cyprus: Never
Czech Republic: Miloš Zeman (1998-2002)
Denmark: Thorvald Stauning (1924-1926)
Estonia: Otto August Strandman (1919)
Finland: Väinö Tanner (1926-1927)
France: Aristide Briand (1909–1911) or Léon Blum (1936-1918) [Briand may be considered a socialist/social democrat by some measures, but Blum headed a decisively socialist party]
Germany: Friedrich Ebert (1918-1919)
Greece: Alexandros Papanastasiou (1932)
Hungary: Miklós Németh (1989-1990)
Ireland: Never
Italy: Ivanoe Bonomi (1921-1922)
Latvia: Never
Lithuania: Adolfas Šleževičius (1996)
Luxembourg: Never
Malta: Paul Boffa (1947-1950, while still under British rule) or Dom Mintoff (1971-1984, after the independence)
Netherlands: Willem Schermerhorn (1946-1947)
Poland: Ignacy Daszyński (1918)
Portugal: A bit crazy due to earlier parties, so I'll go with Mario Soares (1976-1978)
Romania: Nicolae Văcăroiu (1992-1996)
Slovakia: Robert Fico (2006-2010)
Slovenia: Borut Pahor (2008-2012)
Spain: Manuel Azańa (1931-1933)
Sweden: Hjalmar Branting (1920)
United Kingdom: Ramsay MacDonald (1924)


I probably missed something, so please feel free to correct me.
Vasco Goncalves certainly has a better claim than Mario Soares for Portugal.
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« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2018, 02:11:03 PM »

Finland has first socialist Prime minister among EU countries, but only two times left-wing majority in parliament since independence, last time 1968.

Wrong. Poland, Germany and Austria had their first socialist/social democratic head of government in 1918 (Ignacy Daszyński, Friedrich Ebert and Karl Renner respectively).

I assume you were referring to Tanner, who only became PM in 1926. And it's not the first among Scandinavian countries either (see Hjalmar Branting in 1920).
 


Even friggin Ramsay MacDonald had been earlier than Tanner.

Let's just do a recap of first socialist/social democratic/labor heads of government of EU countries:

Austria: Karl Renner (1918-1920)
Belgium: Paul-Henri Spaak (1938-1939)
Bulgaria: Andrey Lukanov (1990)
Croatia: Ivica Račan (2000-2003)
Cyprus: Never
Czech Republic: Miloš Zeman (1998-2002)
Denmark: Thorvald Stauning (1924-1926)
Estonia: Otto August Strandman (1919)
Finland: Väinö Tanner (1926-1927)
France: Aristide Briand (1909–1911) or Léon Blum (1936-1918) [Briand may be considered a socialist/social democrat by some measures, but Blum headed a decisively socialist party]
Germany: Friedrich Ebert (1918-1919)
Greece: Alexandros Papanastasiou (1932)
Hungary: Miklós Németh (1989-1990)
Ireland: Never
Italy: Ivanoe Bonomi (1921-1922)
Latvia: Never
Lithuania: Adolfas Šleževičius (1996)
Luxembourg: Never
Malta: Paul Boffa (1947-1950, while still under British rule) or Dom Mintoff (1971-1984, after the independence)
Netherlands: Willem Schermerhorn (1946-1947)
Poland: Ignacy Daszyński (1918)
Portugal: A bit crazy due to earlier parties, so I'll go with Mario Soares (1976-1978)
Romania: Nicolae Văcăroiu (1992-1996)
Slovakia: Robert Fico (2006-2010)
Slovenia: Borut Pahor (2008-2012)
Spain: Manuel Azańa (1931-1933)
Sweden: Hjalmar Branting (1920)
United Kingdom: Ramsay MacDonald (1924)


I probably missed something, so please feel free to correct me.
Vasco Goncalves certainly has a better claim than Mario Soares for Portugal.

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« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2018, 03:01:22 PM »

The government was officially sworn in today.

The parties all held extraordinary congresses yesterday, where the coalition agreement was supported. DP and Dei Greng supported it without much ado, but there were quite some tension in LSAP. The youth wing of the party stated that they could not support the agreement. Also there were dissatisfaction in the Eastern part of the party since Tess Burton, who is vice president of the JS (young socialists) in the east and her party’s second most popular candidate in the east, did not become Minister, but the LSAP leadership chose the older and unelected Paulette Lenert instead.

http://delano.lu/d/detail/news/schneider-gets-health-government-takes-oath/197700

http://delano.lu/d/detail/news/socialists-face-youth-revolt/197604
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« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2018, 11:25:05 AM »

Luxembourg to become first country to make all public transport free

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« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2019, 10:42:27 AM »

Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Luxembourg has called on its EU neighbours to relax their drug laws as its health minister confirmed plans to become the first European country to legalise cannabis production and consumption.

Luxembourg is starting to become a FF country.
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« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2019, 01:04:21 PM »

Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Luxembourg has called on its EU neighbours to relax their drug laws as its health minister confirmed plans to become the first European country to legalise cannabis production and consumption.

Luxembourg is starting to become a FF country.
Honestly Luxembourgish are very friendly people.
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