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« Reply #600 on: October 03, 2018, 02:44:12 PM »

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GCB is D+6 with registered voters

GCB is D+9 with those who say the midterms are very important to them so I take that as the Likely Voter sample.

Kavanaugh support is -9 with both RV and LV

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/NPR_PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_1810021305.pdf#page=3

That's roughly unchanged since earlier this month...
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« Reply #601 on: October 03, 2018, 02:44:41 PM »
« Edited: October 03, 2018, 02:48:17 PM by Yank2133 »

Why haven't they switched to LV screens?

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Pretty much. Democrats are holding steady at 48.
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« Reply #602 on: October 03, 2018, 02:47:49 PM »

Poll: Amid Kavanaugh Confirmation Battle, Democratic Enthusiasm Edge Evaporates

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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654015874/poll-amid-kavanaugh-confirmation-battle-democratic-enthusiasm-edge-evaporates
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« Reply #603 on: October 03, 2018, 02:49:08 PM »

What a trolling cherry pick of the poll. Is Hofoid writing for NPR now?
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« Reply #604 on: October 03, 2018, 02:51:14 PM »

That's roughly unchanged since earlier this month...

Red wave incoming.
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« Reply #605 on: October 03, 2018, 02:51:40 PM »

I see everyone is gearing up for the penultimate panic of this year
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« Reply #606 on: October 03, 2018, 03:14:38 PM »

FL-18 (Global Strategy Group/Baer internal?):
Brian Mast (R-inc) 48
Lauren Baer (D) 45

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000166-37b1-d20d-a57f-b7b1e4d20000
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« Reply #607 on: October 03, 2018, 03:22:57 PM »

I see everyone is gearing up for the penultimate panic of this year

Nah, there's at least 3 or 4 more to go before Election Day.
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« Reply #608 on: October 03, 2018, 03:25:42 PM »

FL-18 (Global Strategy Group/Baer internal?):
Brian Mast (R-inc) 48
Lauren Baer (D) 45

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000166-37b1-d20d-a57f-b7b1e4d20000

Sucks for Mast...
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« Reply #609 on: October 03, 2018, 03:39:04 PM »

A bunch of California House polls should be coming Thursday morning:

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« Reply #610 on: October 03, 2018, 03:52:13 PM »

What a trolling cherry pick of the poll. Is Hofoid writing for NPR now?
So you deny that #MeToo overplaying its hand has led to increased GOP enthusiasm in the past month?
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« Reply #611 on: October 03, 2018, 03:58:15 PM »
« Edited: October 03, 2018, 04:01:30 PM by Virginiá »

I think the real question is that even if there really is any kind of "surge" in GOP enthusiasm and/or support, can that be sustained? I'm skeptical, that's for sure. Remember 2016 in the months leading up to election day, where we went through cycle after cycle of major negative events that would drive up Democratic support in the GCB/presidential polling, only for it to evaporate within 1-2 week(s)? The reason for that is because that election wasn't actually a wave election, and the fundamentals acted like gravity, and this was compounded by Clinton having her own negative news cycles. Unless the election could have happened during the middle of one of those negative news cycles for Republicans, it was always bound to revert to the baseline.

I'd wager the same thing is happening here, except a large Democratic lead is the baseline. Republicans might benefit from short-term events that temporarily improve their polling, but it is destined to recede over the following week(s). And if Kavanaugh is confirmed, Republican voters lose the incentive to stay motivated and Kavanaugh's placement on the court will further enrage Democrats and drive a wedge between the GOP and GOP/Indie-leaning women.
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« Reply #612 on: October 03, 2018, 04:06:07 PM »

What a trolling cherry pick of the poll. Is Hofoid writing for NPR now?
So you deny that #MeToo overplaying its hand has led to increased GOP enthusiasm in the past month?

Sure it’s helped some GOP enthusiasm the problem is this poll was D+6 and +9 with a LV model. Those numbers are consistent with the 7-9 point lead D’s have had. So what this says is that whatever help this hearing has had for enthusiasm it hasn’t demoralized dems nor shifted indies in the GOP direction
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« Reply #613 on: October 03, 2018, 04:24:44 PM »

OK, yeah, a few more of these polls and I'll start to get nervous.
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« Reply #614 on: October 03, 2018, 04:28:19 PM »

OK, yeah, a few more of these polls and I'll start to get nervous.
I wouldn't worry too much. It will stop once kav is confirmed (ugh).
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« Reply #615 on: October 03, 2018, 04:28:36 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking
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« Reply #616 on: October 03, 2018, 04:34:01 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking

I never look at one poll in a vacuum. I do, however, look at this. Dem lead at its lowest level in more than a month.

(Again, those are minor swings compared to what we saw in 2016, but it still means fewer seats for Democrats.)
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« Reply #617 on: October 03, 2018, 04:38:43 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking

I never look at one poll in a vacuum. I do, however, look at this. Dem lead at its lowest level in more than a month.

(Again, those are minor swings compared to what we saw in 2016, but it still means fewer seats for Democrats.)
Lowest lead and it’s still 8% which is consistent with where it’s been throughout the past 2 years
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« Reply #618 on: October 03, 2018, 04:42:06 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking

The Bottom Line is this:

The Kavernaugh Confirmation (should he be confirmed) has the Potential to change/swing the narrative of this Election similar to when Comey made the Announcement about re-opening Hillarys eMails in 2016...at least that's what Republicans think it would do otherwise they wouldn't be pushing so hard to get him confirmed.
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« Reply #619 on: October 03, 2018, 04:49:09 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking

The Bottom Line is this:

The Kavernaugh Confirmation (should he be confirmed) has the Potential to change/swing the narrative of this Election similar to when Comey made the Announcement about re-opening Hillarys eMails in 2016...at least that's what Republicans think it would do otherwise they wouldn't be pushing so hard to get him confirmed.
No it doesn’t. Hillary was in a tight race before the Comey letter came out. The midterms haven’t been close polling wise since May
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« Reply #620 on: October 03, 2018, 04:50:25 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking

The Bottom Line is this:

The Kavernaugh Confirmation (should he be confirmed) has the Potential to change/swing the narrative of this Election similar to when Comey made the Announcement about re-opening Hillarys eMails in 2016...at least that's what Republicans think it would do otherwise they wouldn't be pushing so hard to get him confirmed.

How is Kavanaugh even comparable to Clinton?

Comey letter caused Clinton's support to collapse. Kavanaugh confirmation/withdrawal is going to have no effect on Democratic support next month.

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« Reply #621 on: October 03, 2018, 04:59:48 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking

The Bottom Line is this:

The Kavernaugh Confirmation (should he be confirmed) has the Potential to change/swing the narrative of this Election similar to when Comey made the Announcement about re-opening Hillarys eMails in 2016...at least that's what Republicans think it would do otherwise they wouldn't be pushing so hard to get him confirmed.

How is Kavanaugh even comparable to Clinton?

Comey letter caused Clinton's support to collapse. Kavanaugh confirmation/withdrawal is going to have no effect on Democratic support next month.
But it will have an effect on the GOP's Support. Confirm Kavernaugh and Republicans will lose between 20-30 Seats, don't confirm and you look at a 60+ Seat gain, maybe even more for the Dems.
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« Reply #622 on: October 03, 2018, 05:04:26 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking

The Bottom Line is this:

The Kavernaugh Confirmation (should he be confirmed) has the Potential to change/swing the narrative of this Election similar to when Comey made the Announcement about re-opening Hillarys eMails in 2016...at least that's what Republicans think it would do otherwise they wouldn't be pushing so hard to get him confirmed.

How is Kavanaugh even comparable to Clinton?

Comey letter caused Clinton's support to collapse. Kavanaugh confirmation/withdrawal is going to have no effect on Democratic support next month.
But it will have an effect on the GOP's Support. Confirm Kavernaugh and Republicans will lose between 20-30 Seats, don't confirm and you look at a 60+ Seat gain, maybe even more for the Dems.

Yeah, I just don't buy that at all.
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« Reply #623 on: October 03, 2018, 05:07:32 PM »

Guys the poll was freaking D+6 and +9 in the LV model. For the love of god stop nitpicking

The Bottom Line is this:

The Kavernaugh Confirmation (should he be confirmed) has the Potential to change/swing the narrative of this Election similar to when Comey made the Announcement about re-opening Hillarys eMails in 2016...at least that's what Republicans think it would do otherwise they wouldn't be pushing so hard to get him confirmed.

How is Kavanaugh even comparable to Clinton?

Comey letter caused Clinton's support to collapse. Kavanaugh confirmation/withdrawal is going to have no effect on Democratic support next month.
But it will have an effect on the GOP's Support. Confirm Kavernaugh and Republicans will lose between 20-30 Seats, don't confirm and you look at a 60+ Seat gain, maybe even more for the Dems.

Yeah, I just don't buy that at all.

Buy it or not buy it. There is already clear evidence that Trumps Supporters will stay home if Kavernaugh isn't confirmed.
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« Reply #624 on: October 03, 2018, 05:08:08 PM »

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