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« on: October 02, 2018, 04:16:27 PM »

Have there ever been two (or more) living former US Presidents aged 94 (or older)?
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2018, 04:58:34 PM »

Before? Never, since no other President lived longer than Bush and Carter.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2018, 07:37:03 PM »

IIRC Hoover was the first to make it to 90, then Ford and Reagan died in their early 90s.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2018, 10:55:59 AM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_age

The previous record was co-set by Ford and Reagan, who were in their early 90s. Before that it was Adams (90) and Jefferson (83). Hoover also lived to 90, but I think the oldest other president at the time of Hoover's death in 1964 was Truman (80).

I've always found Hoover's long life to be particularly interesting since he really transcended eras (Van Buren is another president who seemingly lived into another era). This anecdote from Hoover's Wikipedia page is mildly amusing:

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2018, 02:16:06 PM »

Would be interesting if both get to 100. I hope this happens. Go Jimmy and Poppy!
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 12:42:12 PM »

I think W has the best chance to live to that age. Clinton looks sickly and Obama is a smoker. Trump will probably be dead within the next 10 years given his obesity and apparent high stress.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 11:11:12 AM »

I think W has the best chance to live to that age. Clinton looks sickly and Obama is a smoker. Trump will probably be dead within the next 10 years given his obesity and apparent high stress.

Trump will live to 100, obesity doesn't matter anymore.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2018, 01:13:59 PM »

I think W has the best chance to live to that age. Clinton looks sickly and Obama is a smoker. Trump will probably be dead within the next 10 years given his obesity and apparent high stress.

Obama was a smoker. Still just as bad, but had to nitpick lol please forgive me.

As for who makes it to 100, I could def see W. doing it 3 decades from now but don't discount Carter doing it in 6 years' time: the man beat back brain cancer in his 90's! He's strong af, & maybe particularly enough to make it 6 more years.
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2018, 02:58:42 PM »

Prediction:

George H.W. Bush - 2020 (96)
Jimmy Carter - 2025 (101)
Donald Trump - 2030 (84)
George W. Bush - 2045 (99)
Barack Obama - 2048 (87)

Kind of a grim thing to predict, but I mean...
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2018, 06:07:57 AM »

What's the average post-office lifespan of the presidents? Excluding those who actually died in office, obviously.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2018, 12:15:58 PM »

Prediction:

George H.W. Bush - 2020 (96)
Jimmy Carter - 2025 (101)
Donald Trump - 2030 (84)
George W. Bush - 2045 (99)
Barack Obama - 2048 (87)

Kind of a grim thing to predict, but I mean...

Nothing for Bill?
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2018, 01:26:59 PM »

Prediction:

George H.W. Bush - 2020 (96)
Jimmy Carter - 2025 (101)
Donald Trump - 2030 (84)
George W. Bush - 2045 (99)
Barack Obama - 2048 (87)

Kind of a grim thing to predict, but I mean...

Nothing for Bill?

Well that’s embarrassing. I’ll go with somewhere around 95, or 2041
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2018, 01:53:09 AM »

What's the average post-office lifespan of the presidents? Excluding those who actually died in office, obviously.

Idk about the mean, but the median is about 11-12 years
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2018, 07:46:02 AM »

Prediction:

George H.W. Bush - 2020 (96)
Jimmy Carter - 2025 (101)
Donald Trump - 2030 (84)
George W. Bush - 2045 (99)
Barack Obama - 2048 (87)

Kind of a grim thing to predict, but I mean...

Nothing for Bill?

Well that’s embarrassing. I’ll go with somewhere around 95, or 2041

Kind of doubtful, unfortunately. He doesn't really look like a well man, and had a lot of heart problems.

Both of Obama's parents died before they were 55, so hopefully he can beat that. He's in pretty good health by all accounts.
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2018, 11:50:07 AM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_age

The previous record was co-set by Ford and Reagan, who were in their early 90s. Before that it was Adams (90) and Jefferson (83). Hoover also lived to 90, but I think the oldest other president at the time of Hoover's death in 1964 was Truman (80).

I've always found Hoover's long life to be particularly interesting since he really transcended eras (Van Buren is another president who seemingly lived into another era). This anecdote from Hoover's Wikipedia page is mildly amusing:

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I would at this point add Carter to this as somebody who "transcended eras" -- anybody who continues living for more than 30 years post-presidency (so far, only Carter and Hoover) feels incredibly "fish out of water"-esque, and is obviously a living piece of history at a certain point. It's not too weird that Van Buren lived to see the Civil War if you know that he remained very politically active and apostatized from the Democratic Party in the 1840s (he ran an anti-slavery third-party presidential comeback campaign in 1848 that received 10% of the popular vote, but no electoral votes), so he really only lived for 14 more years after leaving politics, which doesn't seem too weird at all (though, yeah, very few prominent figures of the 1820s actually lived to see the Civil War break out as Van Buren did).
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2018, 12:45:45 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_age

The previous record was co-set by Ford and Reagan, who were in their early 90s. Before that it was Adams (90) and Jefferson (83). Hoover also lived to 90, but I think the oldest other president at the time of Hoover's death in 1964 was Truman (80).

I've always found Hoover's long life to be particularly interesting since he really transcended eras (Van Buren is another president who seemingly lived into another era). This anecdote from Hoover's Wikipedia page is mildly amusing:

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I would at this point add Carter to this as somebody who "transcended eras" -- anybody who continues living for more than 30 years post-presidency (so far, only Carter and Hoover) feels incredibly "fish out of water"-esque, and is obviously a living piece of history at a certain point. It's not too weird that Van Buren lived to see the Civil War if you know that he remained very politically active and apostatized from the Democratic Party in the 1840s (he ran an anti-slavery third-party presidential comeback campaign in 1848 that received 10% of the popular vote, but no electoral votes), so he really only lived for 14 more years after leaving politics, which doesn't seem too weird at all (though, yeah, very few prominent figures of the 1820s actually lived to see the Civil War break out as Van Buren did).

Yeah, I don't know though. I feel like to be a living piece of history you have to be somewhat reclusive and not come out much. Carter obviously doesn't fit that as you said, and given that his kids and grandkids have entered politics, Bush Sr. doesn't either.

Reagan is a good example of it, though. He was out of the limelight for years before he died for obvious reasons, and his legacy was always referred to in the past tense.
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2018, 06:41:17 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_age

The previous record was co-set by Ford and Reagan, who were in their early 90s. Before that it was Adams (90) and Jefferson (83). Hoover also lived to 90, but I think the oldest other president at the time of Hoover's death in 1964 was Truman (80).

I've always found Hoover's long life to be particularly interesting since he really transcended eras (Van Buren is another president who seemingly lived into another era). This anecdote from Hoover's Wikipedia page is mildly amusing:

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It's not too weird that Van Buren lived to see the Civil War if you know that he remained very politically active and apostatized from the Democratic Party in the 1840s (he ran an anti-slavery third-party presidential comeback campaign in 1848 that received 10% of the popular vote, but no electoral votes), so he really only lived for 14 more years after leaving politics, which doesn't seem too weird at all (though, yeah, very few prominent figures of the 1820s actually lived to see the Civil War break out as Van Buren did).

Well, I personally think of Van Buren primarily as the architect of the Second Party System, or at least the Democratic Party. But you're absolutely right about the 1848 election as a forerunner to the civil war. I read John Niven's biography of Van Buren about a year ago and it seemed like a lot of contemporaries were shocked that he left the party (and he left at least partly because he was pissed at Polk over patronage decisions). One other moderately interesting, era-spanning tidbit is that Samuel Tilden was his protege.

Another era-spanner is John Quincy Adams. He was probably the only semi-prominent official from the 1790s who was still around for the Mexican-American War.
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2018, 05:07:57 AM »

Yes, and Royalty in England are ageless as well, Elizabeth is 94 and so is her husband
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2018, 06:21:44 AM »

Yes, and Royalty in England are ageless as well, Elizabeth is 94 and so is her husband

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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2018, 09:30:27 PM »

Prediction:

George H.W. Bush - 2020 (96)
Jimmy Carter - 2025 (101)
Donald Trump - 2030 (84)
George W. Bush - 2045 (99)
Barack Obama - 2048 (87)

Kind of a grim thing to predict, but I mean...

Nothing for Bill?

Well that’s embarrassing. I’ll go with somewhere around 95, or 2041

Kind of doubtful, unfortunately. He doesn't really look like a well man, and had a lot of heart problems.

Both of Obama's parents died before they were 55, so hopefully he can beat that. He's in pretty good health by all accounts.

I don't think Barack Obama Sr.'s car accident will have too much of an effect on Barack Obama II's lifespan Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2018, 09:02:01 PM »

IIRC Hoover was the first to make it to 90, then Ford and Reagan died in their early 90s.

John Adams was the first President to live to 90.  He lived a bit longer than Hoover and died on July 4, 1826.

Adams' last words were "Thomas Jefferson survivies."  He did not know that Jefferson had died a few hours earlier on that very day.
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2018, 11:38:24 PM »

@razze:

Barack Obama Sr. was in three major accidents. The first injured him severely(unspecified how), the second lost him both his legs, and the third lost him his life. He was in poor health by the end of his life, however.
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2018, 10:05:10 AM »

IIRC Hoover was the first to make it to 90, then Ford and Reagan died in their early 90s.

John Adams was the first President to live to 90.  He lived a bit longer than Hoover and died on July 4, 1826.

Adams' last words were "Thomas Jefferson survivies."  He did not know that Jefferson had died a few hours earlier on that very day.

This is one of the greatest ironies of history, since this is also the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2018, 09:12:53 PM »

Carter will hold the rest for oldest POTUS at age 98.

George H.W. Bush - 2020
Jimmy Carter - 2022
Donald Trump - 2039
George W. Bush - 2043
Barack Obama - 2052
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2018, 01:32:13 PM »

Carter is the only living President I can see reaching 100, and given the fact that he had cancer, that’s stretching it. As for the rest, at the latest  I’d guess (as grim as it is):

George HW Bush: sometime between now and 2021
Bill Clinton: 2030 (age 84)
George W. Bush: 2042 (age 96)
Barack Obama: 2051 (age 90)
Donald Trump: 2032 (age 86)
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