An interesting data point re:the Senate, 'minority government', and turnout
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« on: October 07, 2018, 07:18:26 PM »

Seeing that someone stupidly decided to make '53%' into a slogan in protest of Kavanaugh's nomination, I did some research to find the actual distribution of Senate votes. This based on that vote:

Shelby20161335104Jones2017673896
Sullivan2014135445Murkowski2016138149
Flake20121104457Feinstein20127864624
Kyl20161359267Harris20167542753
Boozman2016661984Bennet20161370710
Cotton2014478819Blumenthal20161008714
Gardner2014983891Murphy2012815077
Rubio20164835191Carper2012265374
Isakson20162135806Coons2014130655
Perdue20141358088Nelson20124523451
Crapo2016449017Schatz2016306604
Risch2014285596Hirono2012269489
Young20161423001Durbin20141929637
Grassley2016926007Duckworth20163012940
Ernst2014588575Donnelly20121281181
Roberts2014460350King2012368724
Moran2016732376Cardin20121402092
McConnel2014806787Van Hollen20161483025
Paul20161090177Warren20121696346
Cassidy2014712379Markey20141289944
Kennedy2016536191Stabenow20122735826
Collins2014413495Peters20141704936
Wicker2012709626Klobuchar20121854595
Hyde-Smith2014378481Smith20141053205
Blunt20161378458McCaskill20121484683
Daines2014210863Tester2012236123
Fischer2012455593Cortez Masto2016521994
Sasse2014347636Shaheen2014251184
Heller2012457656Hassan2016354649
Burr20162395376Menendez20121987680
Tillis20141423259Booker20141043866
Hoeven2016268788Udall2014286409
Portman20163118567Heinrich2012395717
Inhofe2014558166Schumer20165221945
Lankford2016980892Gillibrand20124822330
Toomey20122951702Heitkamp2012161337
Graham2014672942Brown20122762757
Scott20161241609Wyden20161105119
Thune2016265516Merkley2014814537
Rounds2014140741Casey20123021364
Alexander2014849748Reed2014223675
Corker20121506443Whitehouse2012271034
Cornyn20142855068Leahy2016192243
Cruz20124440137Sanders2012207848
Hatch2012595972Warner20141073667
Lee2016760241Kaine20122010067
Manchin2012394532Murray20161913979
Moore Capito2014280123Cantwell20121855493
Johnson20161479471Baldwin20121547104
Enzi2014121554
Barasso2012184531
5423569478488751
40.9%59.1%

Obviously this ignores third parties, but I don't imagine it would change much. I expected there to be some gap, but not quite so significant - while a lot is made about Democrats being a 'coastal elite' party, if the votes from California and New York are completely removed, the vote balance remains almost perfectly tied. Besides making it clear exactly how unrepresentative the Senate is as an institution, while looking into the details of some of these elections, I was surprised at how big a deal off-year turnout is, and how competitive some supposedly solid states could be with unequal turnout. For example, Cory Booker would have lost by a significant margin in 2014 had the Republicans been able to keep their 2012 turnout. Similarly, Nebraska would have gone the same way but been decided by less than 8000 votes had the Democrats done the same. From this perspective, it becomes clearer how Jones achieved his victory in 2017. If anything, this exercise has convinced me that boosting turnout is probably an easier way to achieve an upset in a 'generic' election than trying to appeal to moderates - though this of course depends on the particulars.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2018, 03:54:13 PM »

Seeing that someone stupidly decided to make '53%' into a slogan in protest of Kavanaugh's nomination, I did some research to find the actual distribution of Senate votes. This based on that vote:

Shelby20161335104Jones2017673896
Sullivan2014135445Murkowski2016138149
Flake20121104457Feinstein20127864624
Kyl20161359267Harris20167542753
Boozman2016661984Bennet20161370710
Cotton2014478819Blumenthal20161008714
Gardner2014983891Murphy2012815077
Rubio20164835191Carper2012265374
Isakson20162135806Coons2014130655
Perdue20141358088Nelson20124523451
Crapo2016449017Schatz2016306604
Risch2014285596Hirono2012269489
Young20161423001Durbin20141929637
Grassley2016926007Duckworth20163012940
Ernst2014588575Donnelly20121281181
Roberts2014460350King2012368724
Moran2016732376Cardin20121402092
McConnel2014806787Van Hollen20161483025
Paul20161090177Warren20121696346
Cassidy2014712379Markey20141289944
Kennedy2016536191Stabenow20122735826
Collins2014413495Peters20141704936
Wicker2012709626Klobuchar20121854595
Hyde-Smith2014378481Smith20141053205
Blunt20161378458McCaskill20121484683
Daines2014210863Tester2012236123
Fischer2012455593Cortez Masto2016521994
Sasse2014347636Shaheen2014251184
Heller2012457656Hassan2016354649
Burr20162395376Menendez20121987680
Tillis20141423259Booker20141043866
Hoeven2016268788Udall2014286409
Portman20163118567Heinrich2012395717
Inhofe2014558166Schumer20165221945
Lankford2016980892Gillibrand20124822330
Toomey20122951702Heitkamp2012161337
Graham2014672942Brown20122762757
Scott20161241609Wyden20161105119
Thune2016265516Merkley2014814537
Rounds2014140741Casey20123021364
Alexander2014849748Reed2014223675
Corker20121506443Whitehouse2012271034
Cornyn20142855068Leahy2016192243
Cruz20124440137Sanders2012207848
Hatch2012595972Warner20141073667
Lee2016760241Kaine20122010067
Manchin2012394532Murray20161913979
Moore Capito2014280123Cantwell20121855493
Johnson20161479471Baldwin20121547104
Enzi2014121554
Barasso2012184531
5423569478488751
40.9%59.1%

Obviously this ignores third parties, but I don't imagine it would change much. I expected there to be some gap, but not quite so significant - while a lot is made about Democrats being a 'coastal elite' party, if the votes from California and New York are completely removed, the vote balance remains almost perfectly tied. Besides making it clear exactly how unrepresentative the Senate is as an institution, while looking into the details of some of these elections, I was surprised at how big a deal off-year turnout is, and how competitive some supposedly solid states could be with unequal turnout. For example, Cory Booker would have lost by a significant margin in 2014 had the Republicans been able to keep their 2012 turnout. Similarly, Nebraska would have gone the same way but been decided by less than 8000 votes had the Democrats done the same. From this perspective, it becomes clearer how Jones achieved his victory in 2017. If anything, this exercise has convinced me that boosting turnout is probably an easier way to achieve an upset in a 'generic' election than trying to appeal to moderates - though this of course depends on the particulars.

Nice chart, but the highlighted text is key, and known to every political operative for years. Ads are designed to boost turnout and depress the opposition, not to debate issues. The public may say they don't like that style, but it works. As long as it keeps working then the public opinion of such turnout-driven strategies will be ignored in favor of results.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2019, 12:23:50 PM »

I've seen exercises like this before and I think they're rather dumb.  If the Senate is supposed to be a nationally representative institution, then you should also be counting all the votes for losing candidates (i.e., Republicans in California and New York, Democrats in Texas, etc.).  California's jungle primary system also royally messes this up and makes it impossible to tabulate.
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