Hillary Clinton: You cannot be civil with Republicans

[Fuzzy Bear]

People were literally run down with a car in Charlottesville by a right-winger. Clinton is 100% right in her comments.

If a hardcore left winger ran over someone in my family with his or her car, I wouldn't be dumb enough to extrapolate it to all Democrats.

People were literally run down with a car in Charlottesville by a right-winger. Clinton is 100% right in her comments.

A right-winger who no one important supported.  But Antifa is supported by quite a few people who are part of respectable society.

Your President didn't even condemn the violence properly and extremists feel like he is on their side.

People were literally run down with a car in Charlottesville by a right-winger. Clinton is 100% right in her comments.

A right-winger who no one important supported.  But Antifa is supported by quite a few people who are part of respectable society.

There are plenty of people who respect the alt-Right and far more than those who support Antifa (who most people don't even know about). Even if you set that aside, Republicans only motivation these days seems to be to do things only to anger their opposition and that's not really legitimate political strategy that helps anyone.

He's "your President" as much as he is mine, your highness.  AKA, he's the President.

I refuse to call anyone who behaves so poorly and unintelligent as my President. Besides, plenty of Republicans refused to call Obama their President, so it all evens out.

The person that ran Heather Heyer down ought to face the full rack of murder charges and its penalties.  That is happening.

The reality is that the Antifa Scum were Culpably Negligent.  Antifa Scum that take no responsibility for their choices.

The Antifa Scum that just HAD to crash the party at Charlottesville, knew, or should have known, that not just their mere presence, but their actions that were intended to disrupt a repulsive, but lawful, permitted assembly, were DESIGNED to promote violence, and that a violent outcome of their actions was the likeliest outcome.  That is the definition of culpable negligence.  There are people here who would sue the dog excrement out of someone who left their kids football in the yard if they tripped over it and injured their leg.  They'd do so even if they were trespassing.  But these same folks think that the Antifa folks who brought Heather Heyer along for the rally, knowing what would happen shouldn't be liable at all, even though it was THEIR plan to disrupt a lawful protest held by people who they either KNEW or HOPED that they could provoke to violence.

OF COURSE NEO-NAZIS ARE SCUM!

You have to say this on Atlas because of the surprising prevalence of Antifa Scum Apologists here.  Everyone knows this, of course.  But I know how I would think and feel if one of my granddaughters were run down as Heather Heyer was.  Not a one of the COUNTERPROTESTERS would be welcome at my home, at the funeral parlor, at the cemetery, or anywhere else, because THEIR NEGLIGENCE HELPED MAKE IT HAPPEN.  Yes, the Neo-Nazi drove the car, but he's in jail, probably for good, and he'll get his.  How much comfort would I take in the idea that the people who led her to her death in an avoidable situation were culpably negligent, but "At least they weren't racists!".  That's the ONLY thing good I can say about Antifa; "Not Being Rascists" is the ONLY virtue they seem to manifest.  

I hate needless violence and death.  I also hate Neo-Nazis and Alt-Right types.  They are as un-American as it gets.  But anyone who says that we "MUST OPPOSE" every one of these alt-right rallies with counterprotesters is just full of crap.  These nuts DON'T have lots of support, but the desire for drama on the part of many here is irresponsible beyond words.  

[Fuzzy Bear]

People were literally run down with a car in Charlottesville by a right-winger. Clinton is 100% right in her comments.

If a hardcore left winger ran over someone in my family with his or her car, I wouldn't be dumb enough to extrapolate it to all Democrats.

People were literally run down with a car in Charlottesville by a right-winger. Clinton is 100% right in her comments.

A right-winger who no one important supported.  But Antifa is supported by quite a few people who are part of respectable society.

Your President didn't even condemn the violence properly and extremists feel like he is on their side.

People were literally run down with a car in Charlottesville by a right-winger. Clinton is 100% right in her comments.

A right-winger who no one important supported.  But Antifa is supported by quite a few people who are part of respectable society.

There are plenty of people who respect the alt-Right and far more than those who support Antifa (who most people don't even know about). Even if you set that aside, Republicans only motivation these days seems to be to do things only to anger their opposition and that's not really legitimate political strategy that helps anyone.

He's "your President" as much as he is mine, your highness.  AKA, he's the President.

I refuse to call anyone who behaves so poorly and unintelligent as my President. Besides, plenty of Republicans refused to call Obama their President, so it all evens out.

The person that ran Heather Heyer down ought to face the full rack of murder charges and its penalties.  That is happening.

The reality is that the Antifa Scum were Culpably Negligent.  Antifa Scum that take no responsibility for their choices.

The Antifa Scum that just HAD to crash the party at Charlottesville, knew, or should have known, that not just their mere presence, but their actions that were intended to disrupt a repulsive, but lawful, permitted assembly, were DESIGNED to promote violence, and that a violent outcome of their actions was the likeliest outcome.  That is the definition of culpable negligence.  There are people here who would sue the dog excrement out of someone who left their kids football in the yard if they tripped over it and injured their leg.  They'd do so even if they were trespassing.  But these same folks think that the Antifa folks who brought Heather Heyer along for the rally, knowing what would happen shouldn't be liable at all, even though it was THEIR plan to disrupt a lawful protest held by people who they either KNEW or HOPED that they could provoke to violence.

OF COURSE NEO-NAZIS ARE SCUM!

You have to say this on Atlas because of the surprising prevalence of Antifa Scum Apologists here.  Everyone knows this, of course.  But I know how I would think and feel if one of my granddaughters were run down as Heather Heyer was.  Not a one of the COUNTERPROTESTERS would be welcome at my home, at the funeral parlor, at the cemetery, or anywhere else, because THEIR NEGLIGENCE HELPED MAKE IT HAPPEN.  Yes, the Neo-Nazi drove the car, but he's in jail, probably for good, and he'll get his.  How much comfort would I take in the idea that the people who led her to her death in an avoidable situation were culpably negligent, but "At least they weren't racists!".  That's the ONLY thing good I can say about Antifa; "Not Being Rascists" is the ONLY virtue they seem to manifest.   

I hate needless violence and death.  I also hate Neo-Nazis and Alt-Right types.  They are as un-American as it gets.  But anyone who says that we "MUST OPPOSE" every one of these alt-right rallies with counterprotesters is just full of crap.  These nuts DON'T have lots of support, but the desire for drama on the part of many here is irresponsible beyond words. 

You say they don't have lots of support, but Tucker Carlson peddles white nationalist propaganda on television every day. The president of the United States said there were fine people on BOTH SIDES of that rally, where one of the sides was neo-Nazis. The sad fact is that in our current political climate, this is NOT a settled question.

This is something you want to believe in order to justify people that agree with you acting like idiots.

When I was a young man, I was familiar with a certain type of conservative who believed that the Bolsheviks were coming over the Brooklyn Bridge.  It wasn't true; while there were Communists in our midst, Communist infiltration of our society was nowhere as near as the fearmongers made it out to be, but they got the kind of equal time in media that allowed their position that liberals were Communists and Fellow Travelers to gain more traction than the facts deserved.  It was the kind of thinking that produced Joe McCarthy, and the kind of thinking that allowed the nation to be led around by the nose by an alcoholic/drug addict that was able to chair a Senate committee and get major TV time.  It wasn't that McCarthy didn't have a point; Alger Hiss was proof that Communists did, in fact, infiltrate our government at high levels, but McCarthy peddled the kind of fear that the Antifa sympathizers peddle today.  Oh, and every conservative is a Fascist. 

This is applying an old playbook to a new setting.

[Fuzzy Bear]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ricin-suspected-least-2-envelopes-sent-pentagon-mail-center-n915891 (ricin sent to Trump and Senator Cruz)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-man-allegedly-tried-to-stab-gop-congressional-candidate-rudy-peters-while-yelling-slurs-against-trump/
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/two-minnesota-republican-candidates-assaulted/
https://nypost.com/2018/10/15/suspicious-letter-sent-to-sen-collins-house/

We're the uncivil ones, though.

There are a lot of people here who are OK with all of that.

They'll be the ones that attack me for saying this.  Just watch.