The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

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Notice how you have Jason Kander on your images but Steve Bullock isn't.

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@JohnKasich - 8:42 AM - 25 Oct 2018

I gave him every chance, but I've come to the conclusion that @realDonaldTrump is simply incapable of being a unifier or accepting any personal responsibility.

Americans deserve more -- so much more -- from a President.

It's happening folks.

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Kasich will be in NH on Thursday:

https://www.concordmonitor.com/On-the-trail-post-midterms-Steinhauser-21419471

This election is going to be great.

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https://www.facebook.com/events/280740519219278/

Ojeda is launching his campaign Monday night in Louisville, KY.

Seems like a strange place to launch it.

Basically he's putting together his base, and his top target is Appalachia.

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Avenatti says he’s still thinking about running for president, despite his arrest:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/15/michael-avenatti-still-considering-run-president-after-domestic-violence-arrest/2019880002/

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Oh my god he is SUCH A TOOL.

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Ojeda was JUST on MSNBC in an interview with Chuck Todd.

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Also, O'Rourke's only hesitation is not wanting to spend so much more time away from his family:

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So, Beto is obviously running.

Yes, because this is his chance. He may never get a better chance than now.

The interesting part about Beto is that people are actually asking him to run rather than him announcing. Its clear that Harris Gillibrand and Booker have always marked interest. They have a base of supporters but those supporters aren't die hard and don't care that much. The enthusiastic support he gets should help in Iowa.
Btw does anyone have Beto's numbers on African Americans in Texas?

Citation needed.

Even if you are a huge fan of any of them, it's not debatable that nobody gets excited for Booker, Harris, or Gillibrand nearly as much as O'Rourke.

Okay. Citation needed since you didn't give me one. Nobody is a strong word.

Obviously I'm using hyperbole, but fine I'll take the bait. How about the fact that in the Harvard-Harris poll O'Rourke is polling 3/4, only behind people with way more name recognition, despite getting well known on the political scene only a couple months ago?

A poll in December 2018 for primaries that won't start till January 2020? Yeah, I'll pass on buying those. And Beto made waves for himself in the Senate race, doesn't translate to him beating every one else easily in 2020.

That is not what we are talking about! You wanted a citation on there being more energy diehard supporters around Beto O'Rourke compared to Booker/Harris/Gillibrand. The fact that a failed Senate candidate is polling higher then the three people in question, despite them being constantly in the news the past 2 years, shows that not a whole lot of people get energized about them.

Lol, talking about being in the news, Beto had all the media attention he could ever want. They obsessed over him, and MSNBC basically endorsed him with the clearly biased coverage in his favor.

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Bernie and Warren met and both are probably running.

Warren should bow out of the race and endorse Sanders, so the Progressive wing of the party is united behind one candidate. The Pocahontas smear combined with her embarrassing DNA test shows she would be torn apart by Trump, plus Sanders has a much more enthusiastic base and a much more authentic message (before Sanders ran, Single-Payer healthcare, Free College, and a Living Wage were viewed as fringe positions by most Democrats) as shown by the fact that every other potential candidate is imitating his platform, even those that clearly don’t support it (ie. Harris, Booker, Gillibrand, and Beto). This proves Sanders is the candidate that Progressives should unite behind to win the nomination and throw Trump out of the White House.

Even if Warren endorsed him, Sanders still wouldn't win the nomination. I would expect Clinton level shenanigans from the other candidates (like refusing to attend debates he is invited to) if he runs.

LOL @ people still talking about Sanders. Give up already!

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If it means anything, Tulsi2020.com requires administrator login, something rare of people who buy the political domains just to troll or never use.

Checked and conformed. Its obvious she's already decided at least on an exploratory committee.

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If it means anything, Tulsi2020.com requires administrator login, something rare of people who buy the political domains just to troll or never use.

Checked and conformed. Its obvious she's already decided at least on an exploratory committee.

Now we wait for Atlas' shredding of someone who, for all intents and purposes, is a generally good candidate.

LOL no.

May I ask why? She served our country overseas, she's not afraid to stand up to Trump, she's got great foreign policy credentials. And it doesn't hurt that she's young and photogenic.

Also, the comments she's made on the LGBT community in the past will definitely be brought up during the campaign.

Hillary Clinton?

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Atlanta is the de facto capital of black America, it makes sense from that standpoint.

I thought that was Chicago.

It is. Please don't believe these costal dems.

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Some news on Steve Bullock:

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Full Newsweek Article

Looks like dark money in politics would be one of his key issues. He has long been an advocate for reforms here.

Yes!

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Steve Bullock should run for Senate at this point. He has no lane with Warren, O'Rourke, and Sanders in the race.

He has a lane with those mentioned. People who would take his lane would be like Brown or Manchin.

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Gillibrand is in (not that anyone expected different)

"In A Private Meeting, Kirsten Gillibrand Signals She Will Run For President"

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/darrensands/gillibrand-private-meeting-women-2020-president

ew

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Means of Production, the filmmaking cooperative that created the viral campaign video that propelled Ocasio-Cortez’s House campaign, is in talks with the Sanders team about a major role in 2020. And two people who powered Sanders’ record-breaking small-dollar fundraising operation in 2016 have agreed to join a subsequent presidential bid if it materializes, according to a Sanders campaign aide: Tim Tagaris and Robin Curran, his digital fundraising director and digital production director in 2016, respectively. The aide said another pair that have helped Sanders build a digital media juggernaut out of his Senate office — media producer Armand Aviram and digital director Georgia Parke — are likely to be part of his 2020 team, too.

Burton said the Detroit-based team would likely create “big, beautiful ads” and “drumbeat content” for Sanders if it was brought on for 2020. "We have certainly been talking with his team," she said, adding that if Sanders runs, "He's the only candidate we would work for.” This week, Sanders’ Senate team streamed his rebuttal to President Trump’s Oval Office address on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube, which went on to garner more than 1.1 million views. In comparison, former Rep. O’Rourke, who is also considering a presidential bid, received almost 200,000 views when he filmed himself on Facebook live for more than an-hour-and-a-half to refute Trump; a short clip of the video got another 480,000 views on Twitter.

CrowdTangle data recently compiled by a person close to the Sanders campaign also underscores his social media muscle compared to other presidential hopefuls: Sanders’ videos had nearly 1.5 billion views in 2017 and 2018 on Facebook — almost three times more than all other potential 2020 Democratic candidates’ videos combined, according to the report. On Saturday, the People for Bernie Sanders hosted more than 400 house parties throughout the country to push Sanders to run in 2020. Winnie Wong, a co-founder of the group, said the events showed that outside pro-Sanders organizations also have extensive social media power that can be put to use in a presidential election.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/14/bernie-sanders-campaign-2020-election-1098795

Politico story - Sanders' building up a strong digital team as outside Bernie supporting groups host 400 House parties urging Sanders to run !

"Means of production". It's like they're not even trying to hide the obvious socialism.

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"Means of production". It's like they're not even trying to hide the obvious socialism.

Well, yeah, typically when you describe yourself as a democratic socialist you're not going to shy away from being called socialist...

If they weren't shying away from being called socialists they wouldn't call themselves "democratic" socialists.

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"Means of production". It's like they're not even trying to hide the obvious socialism.

Well, yeah, typically when you describe yourself as a democratic socialist you're not going to shy away from being called socialist...

If they weren't shying away from being called socialists they wouldn't call themselves "democratic" socialists.

Are you being deliberately braindead and obtuse? Democratic socialists call themselves socialists without shying away from it.

If they wanted to shy away from it, they’d call themselves social democrats or something.

Lol what do you mean. If they wanted to be called socialists they would call themselves socialists. The fact that they have to add democratic at the end shows how cautious they are.

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She highlights how she has opposed the most Trump nominees like if it was a game & showed that she was progressive. She opposed all these guys with a planned pitch that she was most opposed to Trump.

Who really talks about opposing President X's Cabinet Nominees as some kind of crowning achievement ?

And she has like 400 views. That is just terrible & pitiful !

Facts, rocky start for her.

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As noted in this thread, de Blasio has recently revived talk that he’s thinking about running for president, which, according to this story, “stunned even some of his closest friends and oldest advisers”:

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/will-bill-de-blasio-run-in-2020.html

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Cmon now, he isn't that stupid.

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https://twitter.com/jamesoliphant/status/1088950744760401920

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Ugh whyyyyyyyyy

Warren is literally running

I was getting so hyped then this old clown suddenly jumped into the news

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Wow. So Harris and Brown could form a ticket for the primary.

I'm an enthusiastic Harris backer, but she would instantly lose my support if she actually went with this.

Lol not elitist enough?

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Wayne Messam, the mayor of Miramar, Florida, is considering a run for the Democratic nomination for president(!):

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article225201075.html

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Stop giving these attention seekers what they want.

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Democrats (and quite a few independants) DO love Joe Biden. Lots of Ds on this sub and Bernie bots on other social media platforms seem to dislike him though, making it seem as though he is unpopular.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/422084-biden-tops-2020-dems-for-favorability-rating-in-new-poll

They like Joe Biden as he is now, the former VP to a President they strongly like and admire.

If/when he runs for President as championing the pre-2016 status quo, and inevitably has multiple gaffes, they aren't gonna like him as much. He may not implode but his numbers are gonna come down to Earth pretty fast.

Additionally, he's out of step with the Democratic Party on multiple issues that the party is undeniably starting to moving left on (primarily economic issues). If Biden ends up winning the nomination and then wins the presidency, he'll rightfully face a lot of scrutiny from the left for not being progressive enough, if at all.

And on top of that, Biden seems a very likely target for #MeToo accusations, either sincere or GOP-generated.  Both from Thomas' confirmation hearings and the regular appearances of "Creepy Uncle Joe".

He would be a very poor choice for nominee. Fortunately, I doubt he's running.

He's very likely to run, and the metooers can deal with it. Just because hes a straight white male doesn't mean they can just go after him without any actual evidence of anything.

Plus, they probably won't even go after him, because he's a democrat (Franken was a rare exception) and even if there is evidence against him of anything the media won't report it because again, he's a democrat. They only want to deflect the negative attention towards Trump.