The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

[Cold War Liberal]

That she's considering this was already pretty obvious given her recent Iowa and New Hampshire visits, but the media seemed to be ignoring those for some reason:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-bid-917418

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Ick, disgusting

[Cold War Liberal]

Buttigieg says he'll announce his plans by year's end.

I hope he's only doing this to get more support for a 2020 Indiana governor's race.

[Cold War Liberal]

Politico on Gillum.

I love Gillum and Abrams as much as (probably more than) I love Beto but to the people asking why the latter gets more attention than the former two, I would think the answer is obvious: Beto has federal experience, while Abrams only has state experience and Gillum doesn't even have that. Beto should run; Abrams should run for Senate; Gillum should wait and see what 2022's like in the Senate and Governorship in FL. Or maybe US House?

If Gillum were governor-elect, maybe (though he shouldn't've abandoned the state after two years). Ex-mayor Gillum? No.

[Cold War Liberal]

Solid profile on Mayor Pete

https://www.indianapolismonthly.com/features/pete-buttigieg-has-his-eye-on-the-prize/

I really like Mayor Pete and hope he runs for Congress or gets a position in the next Democratic administration.

[Cold War Liberal]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

God help us.

[Cold War Liberal]

Steyer out.

Good. Hopefully, Bloomberg will follow.

[Cold War Liberal]

https://twitter.com/JoePerticone/status/1083762675258134531 Other participants: Bradley Cooper, Michael B. Jordan, Melinda Gates and Lisa Borders.

Beto/Michael B. Jordan 2020!!!

[Cold War Liberal]

"Means of production". It's like they're not even trying to hide the obvious socialism.

Well, yeah, typically when you describe yourself as a democratic socialist you're not going to shy away from being called socialist...

[Cold War Liberal]

"Means of production". It's like they're not even trying to hide the obvious socialism.

Well, yeah, typically when you describe yourself as a democratic socialist you're not going to shy away from being called socialist...

If they weren't shying away from being called socialists they wouldn't call themselves "democratic" socialists.

Are you being deliberately braindead and obtuse? Democratic socialists call themselves socialists without shying away from it.

If they wanted to shy away from it, they’d call themselves social democrats or something.

Lol what do you mean. If they wanted to be called socialists they would call themselves socialists. The fact that they have to add democratic at the end shows how cautious they are.

Or maybe the world is nuanced, there are more than one kind of socialism, and Sanders et al are advocating for their kind of socialism which is different from other kinds.

[Cold War Liberal]

https://twitter.com/jamespindell/status/1084199866551676929?s=21

Having worked with Liz before this is an amazing hire.

How are anyone remotely related to the Clinton clusterf**k even remotely hirable?

Yeah, you'd think the Hillary staffers would be pariahs after their  up in 2016. It's one thing to lose a race, but Hillary was supposed to win in a landslide and due in large part to her campaign's laziness and mismanagement they didn't.

If Biden hasn't started staffing up yet, he's going to struggle to get top talent. I am not sure there are enough top talent staffers for all the candidates running and the longer you wait the more likely you end up with Robby Mook as your Campaign Manager.

And Brown is just an absolute no. We need that Senate seat and he doesn't bring enough to the table to make giving that up worth it especially with his domestic abuse issues in the past.

I mean, Brown is one of the party's strongest possible candidates. The Democrats are NOT winning the Senate back in 2020 anyway, so who cares if it's 52-48 R or 53-47 R? You're stll in the minority. So I really do not get why you're all rejecting Brown over that. Frankly if I were him I'd be tempted to resign the Senate seat just so you'll all stop holding it against him.

It's an uphill battle, sure, but it's by no means a given that Republicans will hold the Senate in 2020, especially if the presidency isn't close.

[Cold War Liberal]

Brown shouldn't run. Bullock and Hickenlooper (along with Abrams and either Anthony Foxx or Jeff Jackson) need to run for Senate. They have 0 chance in the presidential election. It looks like Beto has a real chance at the presidency, but if his poll numbers drop he should run against Cornyn. We need good Senators, and people who abandon a good chance at being Senator (and flipping the chamber to the Democrats) for an infinitesimal chance at being President need a reality check.

Oh and I'd love it if Hogan primaries Trump. He's got nothing to lose in doing so.

[Cold War Liberal]

NYT: Hogan is considering primarying Trump and is reaching to the Kristol NT group and others in Iowa. Weld considering running in the GOP primary, while Sasse has gotten cold feet and Flake/Kasich have joined TV.

Hogan

[Cold War Liberal]

Wow. So Harris and Brown could form a ticket for the primary.

I'm an enthusiastic Harris backer, but she would instantly lose my support if she actually went with this.

Literally why?

Brown is boring and why lose a Senate seat for no reason??

[Cold War Liberal]

I love how JPK III gave a fine, but uninspiring SOTU response last year and for a week or so half of Atlas was sure he was going to be coronated President in 2021, or at least be the next VP. Then Stacey Abrams brings down the roof this year and there are 0 "Abrams 2020?????!?!???!?" threads on this board that I can find. I don't think she should run, but she'd be a better candidate and President than any of the living Kennedys.

[Cold War Liberal]

Being more inspiring than empty suit Joe Kennedy III doesn't mean you'd be a great Presidential candidate.

I don't think she should run

[Cold War Liberal]

However, he also says that should he run, he'll (at least in the primary phase) file to run for both the presidential race and reelection for his House seat, so that he has a backup plan if the presidency doesn't work out.

Can he legally do this? I thought you couldn't run for both the House and higher office at the same time if you're already a member of the House, but I also can't remember where I "learned" that, and can't find a source at the moment. Is this just discouraged? Is it just a matter of state law?

(I know if you were to win the higher office, you have to resign your house seat, which triggers a special election under Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution)