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[Huey Long is a Republican]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

[OSR stands with Israel]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

1968: Goldwater 50.1%, Humphrey 49.6%
1972: Goldwater 59.2%, McCarthy 40.6%
1976: Reagan 47.9% , Hollings 47.7%, Anderson 4.2%

Thank You As Well

[erſatz-york]

Nixon '80!

[morgankingsley]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

Don't forget 1964

[Huey Long is a Republican]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

Don't forget 1964

Thanks for the reminder!

[morgankingsley]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

1968: Goldwater 50.1%, Humphrey 49.6%
1972: Goldwater 59.2%, McCarthy 40.6%
1976: Reagan 47.9% , Hollings 47.7%, Anderson 4.2%

Thank You As Well

But with 4.2 Anderson doesn't qualify for infobox, he needs at least 5

[OSR stands with Israel]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

1968: Goldwater 50.1%, Humphrey 49.6%
1972: Goldwater 59.2%, McCarthy 40.6%
1976: Reagan 47.9% , Hollings 47.7%, Anderson 4.2%

Thank You As Well

But with 4.2 Anderson doesn't qualify for infobox, he needs at least 5

oh I didnt know that

[morgankingsley]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

1968: Goldwater 50.1%, Humphrey 49.6%
1972: Goldwater 59.2%, McCarthy 40.6%
1976: Reagan 47.9% , Hollings 47.7%, Anderson 4.2%

Thank You As Well

But with 4.2 Anderson doesn't qualify for infobox, he needs at least 5

oh I didnt know that

Actually it is either 5 percent -like Perot-, or winning at least one state -Thurmond-, or both -Wallace-. Theoretically, a faithless elector could work as well

[OSR stands with Israel]

Excerpts of Governor Reagan's Concession Speech:



Reagan: A Short While Ago I spoke with Senator Fritz Hollings and congratulated him on winning the election (Boos and crowd chanting we hate Anderson) , no please dont boo as even if we may be upset about the results of the election it is our duty once the American people made their choice to respect that decision . Now that Senator Hollings has won the election it is our duty to give him a fair chance to lead this nation and work with the President-Elect in ways that can help make our nation a better place as we arent Republicans or Democrats first but Americans first(Applause). I told President-Elect Hollings that I look forward to working with him over the next 2 years to help make the state of California a better place as well and I wished him success as his success now will be our nation's success(Applause).

It has been the honor of my life to be this great party's nominee for President, and an greater honor to meet such great people along the way(Applause) and while I may have lost this election, I can tell you that I will never stop fighting for the policies and princples we espoused in this campaign and neither should all of you(Applause). We didnt work so hard for the past year on this campaign trail just so I could become President, but instead to fight to limit the size of government and give power back to the people  and we shouldnt squander that hard work by giving up now because it is not me nor President Goldwater who brings change ultimately but you the people(Applause). Thank You May God Bless You and May God Bless America

President-Elect Fritz Hollings Victory Speech :



Source: https://www.c-span.org/video/?124177-1/hollings-campaign-speech

Hollings: A few hours ago , I spoke with Governor Reagan and he congratulated us on our victory tonight while I congratulated him for a tough and honorable campaign(Applause). I also told him that I look forward to working with him over the next few years to help make our nation a better place(Applause). Our nation faces many challenges but just like we have done throughout our history I am sure we will overcome these challenges together and I look forward to working with all sorts of people over to help make that happen(Applause).

The person who I look forward to working with the most is Vice President-Elect Edmund Muskie who has been a great running mate , a great friend and will be a great Vice President as well(Applause).  While tonight was a great night, the hardest work now we have to do is still ahead of us and that is bringing this nation together to help make our economy more prosperous than it ever has been for all Americans, make our kids prepared for a changing world, make sure every American can afford food and healthcare and also help make the world a more peaceful place as well(Applause).

I want to thank each and everyone of you and I am humbled by the trust you have now placed in me and I want you to know that I will work hard every day to justify that trust(Applause). Thank You, May God Bless You and May God Bless America

[OSR stands with Israel]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

1968: Goldwater 50.1%, Humphrey 49.6%
1972: Goldwater 59.2%, McCarthy 40.6%
1976: Reagan 47.9% , Hollings 47.7%, Anderson 4.2%

Thank You As Well

But with 4.2 Anderson doesn't qualify for infobox, he needs at least 5

oh I didnt know that

Actually it is either 5 percent -like Perot-, or winning at least one state -Thurmond-, or both -Wallace-. Theoretically, a faithless elector could work as well

I dont think faithless electors would work as Powell doesnt have a infobox for 2016.

[morgankingsley]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

1968: Goldwater 50.1%, Humphrey 49.6%
1972: Goldwater 59.2%, McCarthy 40.6%
1976: Reagan 47.9% , Hollings 47.7%, Anderson 4.2%

Thank You As Well

But with 4.2 Anderson doesn't qualify for infobox, he needs at least 5

oh I didnt know that

Actually it is either 5 percent -like Perot-, or winning at least one state -Thurmond-, or both -Wallace-. Theoretically, a faithless elector could work as well

I dont think faithless electors would work as Powell doesnt have a infobox for 2016.

Maybe for the sake of the infobox, doing something like adding one percent to Anderson while moving .5 percent from both Reagan and Hollings would suffice. For 49.4 Reagan, 49.2 Hollings, and 5.2 Anderson

[OSR stands with Israel]

What was the final npv for 1968, 1972, and 1976. I want to make infoboxes of these Elections and post them here for OSR.

1968: Goldwater 50.1%, Humphrey 49.6%
1972: Goldwater 59.2%, McCarthy 40.6%
1976: Reagan 47.9% , Hollings 47.7%, Anderson 4.2%

Thank You As Well

But with 4.2 Anderson doesn't qualify for infobox, he needs at least 5

oh I didnt know that

Actually it is either 5 percent -like Perot-, or winning at least one state -Thurmond-, or both -Wallace-. Theoretically, a faithless elector could work as well

I dont think faithless electors would work as Powell doesnt have a infobox for 2016.

Maybe for the sake of the infobox, doing something like adding one percent to Anderson while moving .5 percent from both Reagan and Hollings would suffice. For 49.4 Reagan, 49.2 Hollings, and 5.2 Anderson

The exit poll would be pretty off then in that cause but if you guys  need it for the info box I would be fine with changing the final popular vote tally to Reagan 47.4%, Hollings 47.2%, Anderson 5.2%

[OSR stands with Israel]

Results of the 1972 Presidential Election:

Presidential Race:

Senator Fritz Hollings(D-SC)/Senator Edmund Muskie(D-ME)   275 47.2%
Governor Ronald Reagan(R-CA)/Senator Howard Baker(R-TN) 263 47.4%
Congressman John Anderson(I-IL)/Former Senator Charles Goodell(I-NY) 0   5.2%

States Decided by Under 5 Points:

Alabama: Hollings 49.55%, Reagan 49.38%
Conneticut: Hollings 46.56, Reagan 45.81%, Anderson 7.12%
Louisiana: Reagan 50%, Hollings 48.8%
Missouri: Hollings 48.6%, Reagan 47.3%, Anderson 3.6%
Illionis: Reagan: 47.3%, Hollings 46%, Anderson 6%
Ohio: Hollings 47.8%, Reagan 46.3%, Anderson 5%
Georgia: Hollings 50.4%, Reagan 48.2%
New Jersey: Reagan: 47.5%, Hollings 45.1%, Anderson 6.2%
Iowa: Hollings 48.6%, Reagan 45.5%, Anderson 5.3%
Michigan: Hollings 48.7%, Reagan 45.4%, Anderson 5.2%
Tennneesse: Reagan 51.4%, Hollings 47.2%



Senate Results:

Democrats: 54(-)
Republicans: 46(-)


House of Representatives:

Democrats: 259(+4)
Republicans: 176(-4)


Gubernatorial Races:

Why Did Hollings Win:

Brinkley: I think the answer to this is pretty clear, the American people after 8 or so years tend to begin looking for other options and if the opposition party runs a good enough candidate, in a good enough environment for them, then they have a very good chance of winning and this year was no different. Another is Hollings was able to win back most of the South for the Democrats as it is very doubtful any other Democrat could carry any other former confederate with the possible exception of Arkansas .


Lastly many people do blame John Anderson for Reagan's defeat and while numbers show a majority of Anderson voters preferred Reagan over Hollings, that does not mean every person who said they preferred Reagan would have come out to even vote so the fact is we dont know what would have happened with Anderson in the race . Maybe the campaign it self would be different as Hollings would substitute Connecticut for example with Lousiana to try to get to 270. Missouri and Ohio we have absolutely no idea how those states would go even without Anderson.


Does a Hollings Victory mark the return of the Southern Democrats 

Chancellor: There is a very large chance it does even though I doubt it will ever go back to the old days because much of the old Democratic Dominance down their had to do with Jim Crow and the fact that Republicans didnt even contest it . To me the first key test will be a the Special Election for his Senate Seat in South Carolina next June July which by the legislature passed a law announcing special elections will be held within 6 months of vacancy even though Governor still has power to appoint a senator in the interim .


Overall though I think in his Presidency Hollings could stop the Democratic slide down there but they will never return to the old days


What Direction Does the Republican Party go from here:

Brinkley: Well I think its simple as House Minority Leader Ford and Senator Kemp are the two clear new leaders of the Republican party and both are very savvy enough to put breakes on many liberal pieces of legislation while proposing the alternative of their own. Remember Congressman Ford has moved to the right in recent years so the GOP is more united then it has been in decades and going up against any unified front wont be easy for a President.


I dont think electorally this defeat was that bad a defeat for the GOP to fall into the political wilderness, because voters, like we talked about eariler, tend to want to give the other party a chance after 8 years and  President-Elect  Hollings didnt really run on an ideological platform either unlike President Goldwater in 1968 which gave him more of a policy mandate.

[Huey Long is a Republican]

here's the 1964-1976 POTUS Election Infoboxes. I can't do them with Maps so if you would like to see that, ask Peebs or someone more skilled in wikiboxes than myself.

1964 -

1968 -

1972 -

1976 -

BTW, I might send you a message in a few OSR, so keep an eye out for when I do that. Now, back to writing my MLaaTR fic. Hope you all like these

[OSR stands with Israel]

They look great New Tennessean Politician, thank you for making them.

[Huey Long is a Republican]

They look great New Tennessean Politician, thank you for making them.

You're very welcome

Also, Ford only ever in the speakership, he never once wanted the job of President and had Nixon not have resigned and Watergate not have happened, he wouldn't have ran for the Presidency at all. The more realistic Republican frontrunners for 1980 would be Kemp, Nixon, and maybe Bush Sr. Reagan could consider another bid, since he barely lost because of Alabama of all states, but that's up to you.

Will Hollings face a Kennedy primary challenge in 1980 or will he be unopposed?

[OSR stands with Israel]

They look great New Tennessean Politician, thank you for making them.

You're very welcome

Also, Ford only ever in the speakership, he never once wanted the job of President and had Nixon not have resigned and Watergate not have happened, he wouldn't have ran for the Presidency at all. The more realistic Republican frontrunners for 1980 would be Kemp, Nixon, and maybe Bush Sr. Reagan could consider another bid, since he barely lost because of Alabama of all states, but that's up to you.

Will Hollings face a Kennedy primary challenge in 1980 or will he be unopposed?

That is true, but the media would still speculate whether or not Ford would run because that is what the media does lol.

As for your other question, well since I will be continuing this TL, I won't reveal anything in advance about the 1980 cycle . You are free to make predictions though

[President Johnson]

Wow, I thought you would have the Gipper winning.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Wow, I thought you would have the Gipper winning.

While I really wanted to have Reagan win, I decided to go in a different direction to change things up to make things a little more interesting.

[President Johnson]

Wow, I thought you would have the Gipper winning.

While I really wanted to have Reagan win, I decided to go in a different direction to change things up to make things a little more interesting.

I think regardless Reagan was the chance for a comeback in 1980 if Hollings messes up in the troubled late 1970s. I mean Reagan would almost be like Al Gore in 2004 with a weaker incumbent.

[Huey Long is a Republican]

Also, if I can help with anyone potentially doing TLs yourself one day, use the Wikipedia state-by-state results and change them as you see fit to get an accurate NPV via Google Spreadsheets. Or, if you don't feel like doing that, get the Raw Vote Total from the election's wikipedia page in #results and then use percentage calculator and later decimal rounder to get the the NPV you want.

also, if possible, please put in how many states a candidate won. I lose track of which states I already counted and which states I haven't many times. It makes it easier for those doing infoboxes. Thanks and hopefully this helps some

[OSR stands with Israel]

Wow, I thought you would have the Gipper winning.

While I really wanted to have Reagan win, I decided to go in a different direction to change things up to make things a little more interesting.

I think regardless Reagan was the chance for a comeback in 1980 if Hollings messes up in the troubled late 1970s. I mean Reagan would almost be like Al Gore in 2004 with a weaker incumbent.

Yah Reagan could run again in 1980 and would have a realistic chance to be a contender again unlike say someone like Hillary . I wont reveal the answer to this question though so you will have to wait and see

[morgankingsley]

I apologize for the uproar I made for the whole Anderson thing

[OSR stands with Israel]

I apologize for the uproar I made for the whole Anderson thing

its all right

[OSR stands with Israel]

President Goldwater reacts to results of the election:



Source: https://www.heritage.org/conservatism/commentary/i-worked-barry-goldwaters-campaign-heres-the-moment-i-knew-it-was-over

Goldwater: Today Morning, I spoke on the phone with President-Elect Hollings and congratulated him on winning the election and invited him to meet me here at the White House on Friday to discuss how we can best make the transition process as smooth as possible. While it is no surprise that I preferred Governor Reagan in the election but now that the American people made their choice it is time we all wish for President-Elect Holling's success. I pledged to him that I would work to make this transition period as smooth as possible and that I look forward to working with him over the next couple and half months.


Brokaw: I am told that President Goldwater was pretty upset at the results last night and was particullary furious at Congressman Anderson and blamed him for last night's defeat. He also told Republican leaders in a call very reminisnt to President Johnson call 8 years ago to party leaders that be ready to fight .



Hollings names Head of Transition Team and Chief of Staff:

Head of Transition Team: Speaker Carl Albert



Chief of Staff: Former North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford



Source: https://alchetron.com/Terry-Sanford

President-Elect Hollings meets with President Goldwater at White House for Transition meeting:


Source: https://abcnews4.com/news/local/south-carolina-senator-fritz-hollings-in-repose-at-statehouse
Source: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Barry-Goldwater


Brokaw: We are told that the meeting between the President-Elect and President went well with the both of them talking about how to best ensure a smooth transition , building a white house organization and foreign policy. Afterwards the two men had lunch and then President-Elect Hollings left the White House.