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« on: October 14, 2018, 09:27:11 am »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-politics-dissident-sanctions/saudi-threatens-to-retaliate-against-any-sanctions-over-khashoggi-disappearance-idUSKCN1MO0F1
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“The Kingdom affirms its total rejection of any threats and attempts to undermine it, whether by threatening to impose economic sanctions, using political pressures, or repeating false accusations...” the official Saudi Press Agency quoted an unnamed government source as saying.

“The Kingdom also affirms that if it receives any action, it will respond with greater action, and that the Kingdom’s economy has an influential and vital role in the global economy...” the source added without elaborating.

The threat caused the stock market of the world’s biggest oil exporter to lose as much as $33 billion of its value on Sunday in one of the first signs of the economic pain that Riyadh could suffer over the affair.
The tantrum just shows how weak the monarchy actually is. Sooner or later it will fall or be relegated to just being there as a national prop.
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2018, 10:31:29 am »

Let them throw their tantrum.  The goal here is the world vs. KSA

They will find that their citizens cannot eat and drink oil.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2018, 01:09:53 pm »

Let them throw their tantrum.  The goal here is the world vs. KSA

They will find that their citizens cannot eat and drink oil.

If anything, if the Saudis make oil more expensive, they'll do quite alright.  Granted, the Saudis can't keep the price high forever, but the Saudis still have a large enuf share of world oil production to be able to impact the price. That said, I wouldn't expect them to pull that particular trigger, if only because I don't expect the US or the EU to do anything beyond words right now.  However, some other countries could see a sudden loss of economic support.  Basically, this is their way of telling other Arab countries to keep quiet or suffer the fate of Qatar.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2018, 06:14:01 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2018, 09:02:35 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Assassins work quietly.

More seriously, I can't think of anything more idiotic to suggest doing foreign policy wise.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2018, 09:48:55 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Assassins work quietly.

More seriously, I can't think of anything more idiotic to suggest doing foreign policy wise.

Bwahahaha, better pray someone doesn't give our head honcho that idea then.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2018, 09:53:36 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Assassins work quietly.

More seriously, I can't think of anything more idiotic to suggest doing foreign policy wise.

Bwahahaha, better pray someone doesn't give our head honcho that idea then.

I really don't think Trump reads this forum. Besides, I'm a registered Democrat, so he's not going to listen to me anyways, because I didn't vote for him.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2018, 09:55:58 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Assassins work quietly.

More seriously, I can't think of anything more idiotic to suggest doing foreign policy wise.

Bwahahaha, better pray someone doesn't give our head honcho that idea then.

Nah.  Why would he do anything to the people who let him play with a glowy ball?

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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2018, 11:49:31 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Assassins work quietly.

More seriously, I can't think of anything more idiotic to suggest doing foreign policy wise.

Bwahahaha, better pray someone doesn't give our head honcho that idea then.

I really don't think Trump reads this forum. Besides, I'm a registered Democrat, so he's not going to listen to me anyways, because I didn't vote for him.

He'll see the R-NY avatar and think you're #MAGA and not read any of your other posts.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2018, 11:51:23 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Assassins work quietly.

More seriously, I can't think of anything more idiotic to suggest doing foreign policy wise.

Bwahahaha, better pray someone doesn't give our head honcho that idea then.

I really don't think Trump reads this forum. Besides, I'm a registered Democrat, so he's not going to listen to me anyways, because I didn't vote for him.

He'll see the R-NY avatar and think you're #MAGA and not read any of your other posts.

And if he reads it after Election Day, it'll be D-NY again.
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2018, 04:40:01 am »

This is a result of the Trump Presidency. The fact is that Saudi Arabia willingly and knowingly tortured and murdered an American resident journalist. Any other administration would be outraged. Trump doesn't care. For one, not a citizen and secondly, Muslim, and thirdly, a journalist. If we were going to direct our bombing campaign one way after 9/11, it should have been Saudi Arabia. We do need to respond to this or other regimes are going to act in similar fashion more overtly.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2018, 08:07:22 am »

The other weapon in the Saudi's arsenal is they hold a lot of US treasury bonds, so could potentially cause a financial ruckus with them.

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Yes you keep on saying this, but it would be incredibly stupid and immoral.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2018, 08:27:14 am »

The other weapon in the Saudi's arsenal is they hold a lot of US treasury bonds, so could potentially cause a financial ruckus with them.
isn't the worst thing they could do is sell them all, right?  To lower the value of them....but that would hurt them way more than it hurts us, or am I misunderstanding something?  This is supposedly the leverage teh PRC has over us too, and I'm just not seeing it how it would work out very well for either.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2018, 08:47:30 am »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Sure, nuking what is the holiest place for the 1,800,000,000 Muslims worldwide is the best way to shut them up.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2018, 01:01:28 pm »
« Edited: October 15, 2018, 02:23:54 pm by PR »

Fine. Let’s throw our own tantrum about 9/11, Yemen, Qatar, sectarian Wahhabi-Saudi propaganda, human rights inside the Kingdom, and their beloved Crown Prince being a megalomaniac and dumbf—k who is a danger to himself and others.

#FreeMecca #FreeMedina #DownWithTheAl-Saud
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2018, 01:08:57 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Sure, nuking what is the holiest place for the 1,800,000,000 Muslims worldwide is the best way to shut them up.


A better strategy would be to threaten to divert Saudi arms sales and other support to Qatar and Iran. Maybe enlist Al-Jazeera and others in  a propaganda campaign against the al-Saud being not worthy of “protecting” the Holy Places. Remind people that they’re still at heart a bunch of Bedouin warlords who violently conquered the Hejaz and most of the Arabian Peninsula. Drop the “Saudi” from Saudi Arabia - call the House of Saud “the dictators of Arabia, the butchers of Yemen,” etc. Provide platforms to Muslims from around the world angered at the Saudi-Wahhabi influence over their mosques and their communities. And last but not least, cut off all arms sales and ban Saudi lobbyists from Washington, DC., London, etc.

None of this will happen obviously, but still.



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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2018, 11:45:05 am »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Saying it more than once doesn't make it any less braindead.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2018, 04:11:43 pm »

Like, I said, just threaten to nuke Mecca. That'll shut them up.

Sure, nuking what is the holiest place for the 1,800,000,000 Muslims worldwide is the best way to shut them up.


A better strategy would be to threaten to divert Saudi arms sales and other support to Qatar and Iran. Maybe enlist Al-Jazeera and others in  a propaganda campaign against the al-Saud being not worthy of “protecting” the Holy Places. Remind people that they’re still at heart a bunch of Bedouin warlords who violently conquered the Hejaz and most of the Arabian Peninsula. Drop the “Saudi” from Saudi Arabia - call the House of Saud “the dictators of Arabia, the butchers of Yemen,” etc. Provide platforms to Muslims from around the world angered at the Saudi-Wahhabi influence over their mosques and their communities. And last but not least, cut off all arms sales and ban Saudi lobbyists from Washington, DC., London, etc.

None of this will happen obviously, but still.





Is there not some non-royal general in the Saudi army who can just coup these people?
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