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ON Progressive
OntarioProgressive
Junior Chimp
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E: -6.06, S: -8.70

« on: October 14, 2018, 04:46:34 PM »

Klobuchar (D-inc) 50
Newberger (R) 41

Tina Smith (D) 46
Karin Housley (R) 43

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nHaf6GeLgwHTUaJyvQMQcbP7ATsYv0vWAZgqFTKwYCo/edit#gid=0

Needless to say, this is a junk poll.
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ON Progressive
OntarioProgressive
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,106
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -8.70

« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2018, 04:55:32 PM »

I have this WI-Sen, NJ-Sen and MN-Special on my list of "sleeper races."

LOL @ you thinking MN-Special is a sleeper race when actually good pollsters, not garbage like Change Research, have Smith ahead by double digits.
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ON Progressive
OntarioProgressive
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,106
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -8.70

« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2018, 05:22:16 PM »

I thought this was a Democratic pollster. 😂

Maybe this is warning signal that the Democrats actually have an electoral problem with Ellison.

Change is not a reliable pollster for anyone. It's not a D or R pollster, just a junk one.

And what would Ellison have to do with any of these races? Sure, let's ignore the numerous and numerous polls have Klobuchar in +20 or +30 and go with the +9 one!

They were the only pollster to have Gillum pipping Graham. I'm not saying the Change poll is necessarily accurate, or the best, but it's a poll. There's too much of a tendency around here to dismiss polls that don't herd. If you want to ding it for an (overall) poor track record go ahead, but dismissing it entirely when you would be saying stuff like "about right" if it showed results in line with what you expect is not right.

Even with Gillum, they overstated his lead by 7 points. They are not a pollster that is worth anything, and half the reason I posted this poll just to get amusement from people like you and Arkansas Yankee trying to treat it like it's gospel.
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ON Progressive
OntarioProgressive
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,106
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -8.70

« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2018, 11:06:41 PM »

Seems like garbage, but this poll has piqued my interest nonetheless. Taking it with a grain of salt without ignoring it is probably the best thing to do in this case.

EDIT: Before someone says anything, I'll just leave this here.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=251467.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=251497.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250938.0

Say something if you want more

Those polls weren’t conducted by online-only pollsters with histories of massive miss after massive miss after massive miss.
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ON Progressive
OntarioProgressive
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,106
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -8.70

« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2018, 11:46:09 PM »

Seems like garbage, but this poll has piqued my interest nonetheless. Taking it with a grain of salt without ignoring it is probably the best thing to do in this case.

EDIT: Before someone says anything, I'll just leave this here.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=251467.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=251497.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250938.0

Say something if you want more

Those polls weren’t conducted by online-only pollsters with histories of massive miss after massive miss after massive miss.

https://www.scribd.com/document/386749892/FL-Gov-Change-Research-D-for-Andrew-Gillum-August-2018

Like I said earlier:
Even with Gillum, they overstated his lead by 7 points.

Also, that still doesn’t explain away big misses in IL-03 (D primary), VA-Gov (D primary), MI-Gov (D primary) and AL-Sen.
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ON Progressive
OntarioProgressive
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,106
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -8.70

« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2018, 12:33:12 AM »

I believe I called these results last week that the MN senate open seat was close. Glad to see a poll confirming my suspicions.

Trump lost MN by a point. Hardly a stretch to have D+3 here.

Senator Roy Moore agrees your predictions are extremely accurate.
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