Austria, like the US & Hungary, backs out of the UN migration pact

[Lord Halifax]

If you think the current refugee crises around the world are bad, I've got some news for you as to what it's going to be like in the coming decades with environmental disasters on the horizon. Governments are going to be mowed down and overwhelmed whether they follow U.N. pacts or not.

jeez man, we can see your boner.  Do try and contain yourself!


and how do you think refugees are going to "mow down" govts, especially the ones that are willing to secure their borders?  Of course it will overwhelm those that think they can take them in, it already is, but I'm not understanding how it would work for the good countries that aren't stupid?

Cenk Uygur for example has predicted a stampede of refugees into the United States due to global warming. He says a wall might be able to hold back 10,000, but not 10 to 20 million people.

They would probably use minefields along the border in that case. Stretching for several miles inland so they wouldn't run out of active mines even if it was a big stampede.

[Lord Halifax]

They wouldn't use mines and certainly not miles of them...that's silly. 

Nah, it's cheap and efficient.

[Lord Halifax]

They wouldn't use mines and certainly not miles of them...that's silly. 

Nah, it's cheap and efficient.

Sure, compared to having humans every 100 yards, but not compared to drones.

Plus the the Feds don't own the land they would need to own to put "miles of land mines" on the border.  They've had that issue just trying to put up the wall and they only need a few hundred feet for that.

If we are talking about a situation bad enough that tens of millions of people could be expected to storm the border things like property rights won't matter. The rules will be totally different in such a dystopian scenario.

[Lord Halifax]

If we are talking about a situation bad enough that tens of millions of people could be expected to storm the border things like property rights won't matter. The rules will be totally different in such a dystopian scenario.

Sure, and land mines would still be a bad way to stop them. You understand that they only work once right?  That they are indiscriminate?  That they are relatively easy to neutralize?  The DoD still uses them in some specific circumstances (Korea is the only place left I think), but they've mostly been replaced with better options.

Of course, why else do you think I want a deep belt going miles into the country???

That they are indiscriminate wouldn't be a problem, in such a scenario you want to kill all the invaders.

I doubt they would be "easy to neutralize" for a huge disorganized mass of desperate migrants trying to storm the border.