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« on: October 18, 2018, 06:21:40 PM »

He would be a good vice presidential candidate for a minority presidential nominee and could be compared to a Joe Biden pick in 2008 where Casey appeals to white middle class voters, who are still the majority of the nation.

Despite his pro-life stance, would he be good?
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2018, 08:09:12 PM »

Imo he and Conor Lamb are the only two plausible Democratic VP nominees from PA (well, Wolf is too, but I just think he's too old), so that's worth something, at least.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2018, 08:11:25 PM »

Casey is too pro-life for Dems and too pro-choice for Pubs.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2018, 08:46:06 PM »

Not with the Supreme Court about to kill off Roe. I'll vote for him for Senate, but as VP he'd be a terrible choice.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2018, 09:27:33 PM »

He might have been an acceptable choice ca. 2000 (a la Joe Lieberman), but not in this day and age.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2018, 09:34:09 PM »

Casey is too pro-life for Dems and too pro-choice for Pubs.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 09:50:16 PM »

No.  For many reasons.  Nothing against him as a Senator.  But would be an awful VP pick.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2018, 10:41:07 PM »


This, he would be good for a progressive though. (Ticket balance)
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2018, 11:04:32 PM »

Casey would make a good pick for a Harris campaign, but for anyone else, he's both too moderate and too Northeastern/Mid-Atlantic.

Someone like Biden/Sanders/Warren/Booker/Gillibrand, should be thinking about regional balance, so maybe someone like Tammy Baldwin, Catherine Cortez Masto, Tammy Duckworth or Kamala Harris (if she doesn't win the nomination).

In fact, I think a Warren/Harris or Gillibrand/Harris ticket would be a very strong ticket in November for Democrats.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2018, 12:30:42 AM »

No because he doesn't fit well with anyone. Maybe he could offer a bit more pull for the Ds in Pennsylvania but honestly if he is paired with someone who needs him (like Harris) I think Trump is winning Pennsylvania anyway.

A good choice for someone like Harris or Warren would be someone like Sherrod Brown or Klobuchar - someone who appeals to the Midwest AND excites the base. Maybe Roy Cooper if you want target NC and want more executive experience.

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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2018, 06:35:26 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2018, 06:39:59 AM by Lakigigar »

No, definitely not.

Pro-life = 100% no-go
Too white/blue dog-ey
Wouldn't excite it's base
Would cause people not to turn out / have doubts about his presidential abilities (and if he would be VP of Biden and Sanders, that would depress turn-out).


This, he would be good for a progressive though. (Ticket balance)

I doubt a progressive would choose him. A progressive should rather take a classic liberal like Castro or so, and not a blue dog, because that wouldn't add balance to the ticket, but rather division. A progressive (esp. in case of Sanders, Merkley, Steyer and DeBlasio) should probably focus on adding diversity on the ticket (and someone from a different region in the USA) instead of adding "balance" on the issues. And eventually, when it comes to the issues, most dems will agree with 90% on most things. There is no point in choosing for a conservative democrat or a blue dog over a classic liberal.

And to be honest, i don't think people who think Sanders is too liberal on the issues, will vote for Sanders because Casey is on the ticket? And in case of Sanders, the VP needs to be a good candidate as well (because of Sanders' age).
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2018, 09:20:40 AM »

If it's a dude from PA, it's got be Tom Wolf as Kamala Harris' VP. I start liking the idea as I learned more about Wolf during this campaign. He'd be a a very good ticket balancer.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2018, 05:12:25 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2018, 09:57:00 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2018, 11:32:46 AM »

If it's a dude from PA, it's got be Tom Wolf as Kamala Harris' VP. I start liking the idea as I learned more about Wolf during this campaign. He'd be a a very good ticket balancer.

Yea, I'm not sure why people are talking about Casey when Wolf is the obvious choice. Executive experience, would have won twice by healthy margins, decent progressive record. And he's solidly pro-choice. Only drawback is he's on the older side and had cancer.
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2018, 11:34:08 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2018, 11:43:46 AM »

No, definitely not.

Pro-life = 100% no-go
Too white/blue dog-ey
Wouldn't excite it's base
Would cause people not to turn out / have doubts about his presidential abilities (and if he would be VP of Biden and Sanders, that would depress turn-out).


This, he would be good for a progressive though. (Ticket balance)

I doubt a progressive would choose him. A progressive should rather take a classic liberal like Castro or so, and not a blue dog, because that wouldn't add balance to the ticket, but rather division. A progressive (esp. in case of Sanders, Merkley, Steyer and DeBlasio) should probably focus on adding diversity on the ticket (and someone from a different region in the USA) instead of adding "balance" on the issues. And eventually, when it comes to the issues, most dems will agree with 90% on most things. There is no point in choosing for a conservative democrat or a blue dog over a classic liberal.

And to be honest, i don't think people who think Sanders is too liberal on the issues, will vote for Sanders because Casey is on the ticket? And in case of Sanders, the VP needs to be a good candidate as well (because of Sanders' age).

I don't think Casey would be a bad pick. He isn't a blue dog. He's a generic liberal from a state the Dems have lost who happens to be pro-life. He isn't a turn off to swing voters and most of the #Resistance that would be turned off (who quite frankly, I don't have much respect for anyone who would, especially when he's still obviously much better than Trump) aren't in swing states.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2018, 04:10:48 PM »

Keep in mind that it would lead to a special election in 2021 under PA law, not 2022.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2018, 08:21:47 PM »

No.  For many reasons.  Nothing against him as a Senator.  But would be an awful VP pick.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2018, 08:24:12 PM »

While I do love my senator, he's best doing just that: being a senator. If he were to be a VP candidate, he'd probably work best with Kamala Harris, but again: no.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2018, 08:28:00 PM »

Imo he and Conor Lamb are the only two plausible Democratic VP nominees from PA (well, Wolf is too, but I just think he's too old), so that's worth something, at least.

Instead of Casey, I'd actually make the list: Lamb, Fetterman, and Shapiro. Fetterman could help the Democratic party salvage their ancestral vote in the rust belt, and I've heard through the grapevine that the PA Dems want AG Shapiro to challenge Toomey in 2022 so he could gain some legislative experience before becoming a potential contender in the future.
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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2018, 07:38:45 AM »

Imo he and Conor Lamb are the only two plausible Democratic VP nominees from PA (well, Wolf is too, but I just think he's too old), so that's worth something, at least.

Instead of Casey, I'd actually make the list: Lamb, Fetterman, and Shapiro. Fetterman could help the Democratic party salvage their ancestral vote in the rust belt, and I've heard through the grapevine that the PA Dems want AG Shapiro to challenge Toomey in 2022 so he could gain some legislative experience before becoming a potential contender in the future.

I'd prefer Lamb to lambaste Toomey. Smiley

Unless Trump loses re-election, in which case Toomey will probably win re-election. Sad
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2018, 12:35:03 PM »

No, there are people who give moderate vibes (which seems to be what people are looking for here) without going against party leadership on issues the party has a firm stance on like abortion.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2018, 03:06:05 PM »

He'd be an excellent pick for Harris, Booker, Warren, Gilibrand and others in their lanes.

On abortion, he has become rather squishy.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/bob-casey-being-pro-life-doesnt-mean-defunding-planned-parenthood/
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2018, 03:27:14 PM »

Noooo way.
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