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« on: October 20, 2018, 10:40:44 PM »
« edited: October 20, 2018, 10:44:31 PM by Da2017 »

I think him staying till the end hurt Clinton. It was clear the math for him to get the nomination was't there. How much of a difference would it make Sanders endorsed Clinton sooner? I think Sanders should of dropped out sooner because of the threat of Trump.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2018, 10:50:44 PM »

That's not why Hillary lost.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2018, 05:00:27 AM »


We're surprisingly in agreement on a Hillary-related issue, at least on this narrow scope Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2018, 09:26:15 AM »

Thats not how democracy works.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2018, 10:06:53 AM »

No. Bernie was starting a movement, and wanted to give every state the opportunity to vote for a leftist candidate. Hillary stayed in for as long in 2008, and while she wasn't as far behind in delegates, she went back on her agreement to not seat the delegates from MI & FL to try to cheat her way to victory, of which there was no equivalent with Bernie.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2018, 10:08:51 AM »

Yes only because it caused his base to get more extreme.
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2018, 10:20:22 AM »


We're surprisingly in agreement on a Hillary-related issue, at least on this narrow scope Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2018, 11:34:32 AM »

No. Bernie was starting a movement, and wanted to give every state the opportunity to vote for a leftist candidate.
"Movement"

I didn't realize lazy greediness could be a movement.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2018, 11:41:52 AM »

No. Bernie was starting a movement, and wanted to give every state the opportunity to vote for a leftist candidate.
"Movement"

I didn't realize lazy greediness could be a movement.

Social Darwinian sociopathy has been the conservative movement for the last 40 years, so anything's possible.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2018, 11:42:29 AM »

No. Bernie was starting a movement, and wanted to give every state the opportunity to vote for a leftist candidate.
"Movement"

I didn't realize lazy greediness could be a movement.

Guess you never heard of the modern day GOP then.
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2018, 11:45:42 AM »

Of course he should have.
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2018, 03:15:29 PM »

He should have dropped out the moment Hillary clinched the magic number of delegates.
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2018, 03:17:14 PM »

No. Bernie was starting a movement, and wanted to give every state the opportunity to vote for a leftist candidate.
"Movement"

I didn't realize lazy greediness could be a movement.

Because wanting to avoid still having to pay your student loans fifty years after graduation is a terrible greediness.
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2018, 03:41:02 PM »

No. Bernie was starting a movement, and wanted to give every state the opportunity to vote for a leftist candidate.
"Movement"

I didn't realize lazy greediness could be a movement.

Because wanting to avoid still having to pay your student loans fifty years after graduation is a terrible greediness.
Cherrypicking 101
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2018, 04:00:39 PM »

No. Bernie was starting a movement, and wanted to give every state the opportunity to vote for a leftist candidate.
"Movement"

I didn't realize lazy greediness could be a movement.

Because wanting to avoid still having to pay your student loans fifty years after graduation is a terrible greediness.
Cherrypicking 101
How is that cherrypicking? Lol
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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2018, 04:49:21 PM »

No. Bernie was starting a movement, and wanted to give every state the opportunity to vote for a leftist candidate.
"Movement"

I didn't realize lazy greediness could be a movement.

Because wanting to avoid still having to pay your student loans fifty years after graduation is a terrible greediness.
Cherrypicking 101
How is that cherrypicking? Lol
How is it not? Lol
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2018, 07:56:55 PM »

First a disclosure--I supported Bernie.

Having said that, my answer is a firm "No."  He was Hillary's challenger for the Democratic nomination--he did not have a responsibility to make life easy for her.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2018, 11:47:36 AM »

I still think he should have made an independent run after he lost the nomination. Yes I know, it would guarantee a trump 400 plus landslide. But he could have won some states like Vermont. Besides, with a independent run of his caliber he would force the establishment democrats to take the progressive wing more serious and therefore he could name a progressive successor in 2020 to defeat the then inevitable president trump
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2018, 06:44:39 PM »

I still think he should have made an independent run after he lost the nomination. Yes I know, it would guarantee a trump 400 plus landslide. But he could have won some states like Vermont. Besides, with a independent run of his caliber he would force the establishment democrats to take the progressive wing more serious and therefore he could name a progressive successor in 2020 to defeat the then inevitable president trump

I think if anything it would've done irreparable damage to the party and caused a permanent split.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2018, 07:48:26 PM »

I still think he should have made an independent run after he lost the nomination. Yes I know, it would guarantee a trump 400 plus landslide. But he could have won some states like Vermont. Besides, with a independent run of his caliber he would force the establishment democrats to take the progressive wing more serious and therefore he could name a progressive successor in 2020 to defeat the then inevitable president trump

I like how you say that so casually. Yes, of course a Republican would want that to happen. But it would cause Bernie to become absolutely despised by a vast portion of the country once Trump took office, especially since people would've assumed Hillary would've won if not for him being a spoiler. He or any "progressive successor" he publicly supported would've been absolutely toxic in a Democratic primary in this scenario.
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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2018, 12:08:05 AM »

He should have retained his integrity by refusing to endorse Hillary. He also should have ran as a 3rd Party Candidate.
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2018, 07:35:19 AM »

so dems have candidate who would beat anybody (sanders) and they decided to nominate most unlikeble person in america, who lost to trump. and now clintonites asking questions like this...
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2018, 12:31:25 PM »

Yes, but it wouldn't have changed the general election result.
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2018, 07:08:08 PM »

I don't think it had any significant effect on the election, but it was largely pointless for him to continue the way he did.
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2018, 07:23:35 PM »


Of course not.

Hillary shouldn't have run.
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