2024: Ted Cruz/Marco Rubio vs Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez/Tim Walz
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« on: October 30, 2018, 10:42:45 PM »

After Joe Biden wins the White House in 2020, and sticking to a self proclaimed term-limit of one term, declines to run for reelection, Democrats have a contested primary.

Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez defeats the incumbent Vice President, Gavin Newsom in the primaries to win the nomination. She selects Tim Walz, who was elected Minnesota Governor in 2018, and won reelection in 2022.

On the Republican side, Ted Cruz, after narrowly escaping reelection, and with polling showing him trailing in a general election in his Senate race, jumped into the Presidential bid and fought off a challenge from Mike Pence and Marco Rubio. Cruz proceeded to select Rubio as his running mate.

Who wins, and why (Maps would be nice, but a detailed reasoning is a great substitute)?
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2018, 03:56:08 PM »

This scenario makes Ted Cruz look unpopular and rather weak, and by 2024 Ocasio won't be as controversial as she would be today.



Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/Governor Tim Walz (D-MN): 391 EVs
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 147 EVs
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 04:37:12 PM »

While I'm still clueless as to how to make maps, I agree with Politician on how Ocasio's ideas would be more mainstream by then, as well as Cruz's unpopularity. I think Cruz would win Texas, though, while Ocasio wins Iowa and maybe Ohio (but that's a huge maybe).
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 04:47:58 PM »

While I'm still clueless as to how to make maps, I agree with Politician on how Ocasio's ideas would be more mainstream by then, as well as Cruz's unpopularity. I think Cruz would win Texas, though, while Ocasio wins Iowa and maybe Ohio (but that's a huge maybe).

Ocasio maybe isn't the best fit for Ohio, but Cruz would be solidly rejected here, so I agree with you.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 05:38:53 PM »
« Edited: October 31, 2018, 05:41:59 PM by Lakigigar »



Close race, which Ocasio-Cortez would win.

Wisconsin, Georgia, Florida and Texas the closest races. Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa and North Carolia next tier of closest races.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2018, 03:01:08 AM »
« Edited: December 27, 2018, 04:22:06 AM by swords »

 

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2018, 12:11:05 PM »



Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/Governor Tim Walz (D-MN): 351 EVs
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 187 EVs
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2018, 02:56:18 PM »
« Edited: December 27, 2018, 02:59:19 PM by Medal506 »

Honestly I think at this point it's more likely that Mike Pence or Ted Cruz would pick Ron DeSantis as their VP over Rubio since DeSantis is much more likable and more of an outsider but with a Cruz/Rubio ticket against a ticket with Ocasio Cortez on top here's what would probably happen.



Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 423 EV, 54.0% PV
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) - 115 EV, 45.0% PV
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2018, 02:28:46 PM »



Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 305 EV, 50,5% PV
Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) 233 EV, 47,3% PV
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2018, 09:12:31 PM »


By the looks of it so far Ocasio-Cortez would be shattered in a debate, and also doesn’t seem to know how she’ll get her policies through (No answer on funding her 40 trillion dollar plan)

She’s a candidate who’s popular with young people and looks good on a camera but against seasoned politicians she would falter and wider America wouldn’t accept her.
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