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« on: November 09, 2018, 05:05:42 PM »

Collar Counties being unified with a divergence?

Lake County Democrats won races for County Treasurer and County Clerk with the Sheriff's contest still too close to call with the Republican incumbent barely in the lead. In addition, Lake County Democrats have a majority on the county board for the first time ever

Lake County, Illinois is the most Democratic of the collar counties. But there has been quite a unity in voting patterns in all the collar counties.

JB Pritzker trailed congressional Democrats significantly in all the counties touching Cook County. Even trailed most of the statewide down ballot. kwame raoul was able to pass the 50% mark in DuPage County. Something that J.B. Pritker could not do.

Even after the results I still see a pathway for the GOP to win an executive office in Illinois. So JB Pritzker will need to work on his image which is often unfairly tarnished.

DuPage County: JB Pritzker won by 1.1% over Bruce Rauner with 47.8% of the vote. A first for a Democratic gubernatorial candidate. For federal offices of congress the Democrats smashed the GOP 57% to 42%.

Will County: JB Pritzer won by a 6% margin while congressional Democrats won it 57 to 42% as well.

Lake County: JB Pritzker was able to pass the 50% margin here and won 51.1% in a 7.3% margin. Democrats for congress earned 61%!!!!

McHenry County: Rauner won 53% to Pritzker's 40%. As of now the final congressional tally is too close to call in McHenry County pending provisionals and mail in ballots.

Kane County: Pritzker won by less than 2% here yet congressional Democrats won 56% of the congressional vote.

Despite all that Pritzker won by a solid margin statewide which shows the power of Cook County despite the unexpected heavy GOP trend of downstate Illinois even in 2018.

It is still very interesting how close Will, Kane and DuPage counties were in the congressional vote.

Despite downstate results we still outperformed final polls and held Mike Bost to 51% and Davis almost lost despite polls showing him leading modestly to bigly. Demographics in many of those downstate cities will keep it from going extreme Republican down there.

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In 2014 Dick Durbin won statewide by 10 points and lost DuPage County by 5 points. In this post 2016 world Kwame Raoul won Attorney General statewide by 10 over a credible Republican challenge and won DuPage County by 3. Huge shift.  In 2014 Lisa Madigans 24 point victory statewide only lead to a 52 to 45 victory in DuPage County.


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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 05:16:39 PM »

Also, results outside of Cook County:

Rauner - 1,308,842 (48%)
Pritzker - 1,174,156 (43%)
McCann (C) - 156,716 (6%)
Jackson (L) - 71,859 (3%)

Just goes to show that Cook County should be its own state. The rest of IL didn't want Pritzker.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 05:17:49 PM »

Also, results outside of Cook County:

Rauner - 1,308,842 (48%)
Pritzker - 1,174,156 (43%)
McCann (C) - 156,716 (6%)
Jackson (L) - 71,859 (3%)

Just goes to show that Cook County should be its own state. The rest of IL didn't want Pritzker.


That's not how states work.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 05:20:02 PM »

Also, results outside of Cook County:

Rauner - 1,308,842 (48%)
Pritzker - 1,174,156 (43%)
McCann (C) - 156,716 (6%)
Jackson (L) - 71,859 (3%)

Just goes to show that Cook County should be its own state. The rest of IL didn't want Pritzker.


It is not clear if the third parties really hurt Pritzker or Rauner.

Consider this: Downballot statewide Democrats outperformed Pritker in all the Collar Counties and like I just stated the congressional Democrats way outperformed Pritzker in the collar counties.

I think McCann may have cost Pritker Madison County, Illinois.  But it is impossible to know.

And Rauner being under 50% outside of Cook County when a counter wave hit downstate Illinois is not impressive.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 05:26:40 PM »

Lake and Will counties may just be too far gone for the GOP by 2022 for the GOP to really mount a bid against JB Pritzker and actually win.

But who knows. Illinois may get its own Charlie Baker.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 05:35:46 PM »

Dem trifecta = tax increase anxiety?
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 05:45:35 PM »

Lake and Will counties may just be too far gone for the GOP by 2022 for the GOP to really mount a bid against JB Pritzker and actually win.

But who knows. Illinois may get its own Charlie Baker.


Duckworth is up for reelection in 2022, there won't be any Charlie Barker or Pritzker
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2018, 05:45:58 PM »
« Edited: November 10, 2018, 07:01:02 PM by new_patomic »

Pritzker himself wasn't that popular.

In addition you're probably seeing a lot of residual strength for the GOP in some places which was most easily reflected in the Gubernatorial race. Though, that being said, 2018 was a huge shift in that the state numbers started reflecting national numbers in a lot of places like DuPage, Will, and Champaign.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2018, 05:46:38 PM »

Lake and Will counties may just be too far gone for the GOP by 2022 for the GOP to really mount a bid against JB Pritzker and actually win.

But who knows. Illinois may get its own Charlie Baker.


Duckworth is up for reelection in 2022, there won't be any Charlie Barker or Pritzker


What??

I think it is fairly safe to say that she will do much better in the collar counties and much worse in the metro east compared to 2016. She probably can not get Madison County again.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2018, 05:51:11 PM »

Pritzker himself wasn't that popular.

In additional you're probably seeing a lot of residual strength for the GOP in some places which was mostly easily reflected in the Gubernatorial race. Though, that being said, 2018 was a huge shift in that state numbers started seriously reflecting national numbers in a lot of places like DuPage, Will, and Champaign,

yeah you saw that Orange county gubernatorial will probably go republican and whoever gets rekt by Bevin in 2019 might still win Elliot.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2018, 05:52:38 PM »

Was there that much reason to prefer one corrupt billionaire over another corrupt billionaire?
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2018, 06:00:05 PM »

Was there that much reason to prefer one corrupt billionaire over another corrupt billionaire?

yeah one is gonna work with Daddy Madigan.
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2018, 06:00:24 PM »

Illinois has been scarred by corruption in our political system and thus people are really pessimistic here about politics and really disliked both of the candidates. Illinois, for now however, remains titanium blue.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2018, 08:14:39 PM »

Controversial candidate JB Pritzker accomplished what Gavin Newsom coud not do. Win the quintessential GOP suburban bastion of the state.
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2018, 10:16:53 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2018, 10:21:00 PM by Mumph »

Rauner did better than I thought he would tbh. Pritzker's gonna be a terrible governor (really anyone who would be IL gov right now is gonna have a terrible time of it) so Dems should just hope they made enough gains to offset the inevitable backlash when the state falls apart.

Also your analysis of downstate is flawed. The fact that Bost won comfortably against somebody who would of won easily like 6 years ago should say something about how far that district has trended. Davis could lose, sure, but it won't be because of regular IL downstaters it'll be because the college vote outvotes R's.

Honestly depends on what the districts even look like in the next decade.
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2018, 10:20:03 PM »

Rauner did better than I thought he would tbh. Pritzker's gonna be a terrible governor (really anyone who would be IL gov right now is gonna have a terrible time of it) so Dems should just hope they made enough gains to offset the inevitable backlash when the state falls apart

I love just how blunt everyone here is about Pritzker. NOBODY'S expecting ANYTHING 🤣🤣🤣
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2018, 10:24:44 PM »

Rauner did better than I thought he would tbh. Pritzker's gonna be a terrible governor (really anyone who would be IL gov right now is gonna have a terrible time of it) so Dems should just hope they made enough gains to offset the inevitable backlash when the state falls apart

I love just how blunt everyone here is about Pritzker. NOBODY'S expecting ANYTHING 🤣🤣🤣

I mean what else do you expect from the guy literally asking for patronage from Rod blago. Honestly although I hate the argument of muh downstate Illinois should be seperated I do feel a bit for this. Like this just sucks.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2018, 01:47:00 PM »

Also, results outside of Cook County:

Rauner - 1,308,842 (48%)
Pritzker - 1,174,156 (43%)
McCann (C) - 156,716 (6%)
Jackson (L) - 71,859 (3%)

Just goes to show that Cook County should be its own state. The rest of IL didn't want Pritzker.


If you take out racist hick counties in Missouri, McCaskill was the Senator of the people

The Florida Panhandle elected Scott and DeSantis. Not the will of the people!
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2018, 04:29:17 PM »

Of course. Pritzker is trash and Rauner despite his failed tenure as governor was a pretty good fit for the Collar Counties.

I wish IL Dems could've nominated a strong candidate like Obama or Duckworth to make the IL GOP suffer even more. Maybe they could've dragged Rodney Davis down in the process.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2018, 04:31:47 PM »

Also, results outside of Cook County:

Rauner - 1,308,842 (48%)
Pritzker - 1,174,156 (43%)
McCann (C) - 156,716 (6%)
Jackson (L) - 71,859 (3%)

Just goes to show that Cook County should be its own state. The rest of IL didn't want Pritzker.


If you take out racist hick counties in Missouri, McCaskill was the Senator of the people

The Florida Panhandle elected Scott and DeSantis. Not the will of the people!

If you removed NPC votes from the count, Democrats would have won every race in the nation. Wink

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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2018, 05:03:06 PM »

Of course. Pritzker is trash and Rauner despite his failed tenure as governor was a pretty good fit for the Collar Counties.

I wish IL Dems could've nominated a strong candidate like Obama or Duckworth to make the IL GOP suffer even more. Maybe they could've dragged Rodney Davis down in the process.

Will Davis's district swing right enough in 2020 that he should be good in the 20's or will dems gerrymander it with the 12th.
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2018, 06:54:16 PM »

Of course. Pritzker is trash and Rauner despite his failed tenure as governor was a pretty good fit for the Collar Counties.

I wish IL Dems could've nominated a strong candidate like Obama or Duckworth to make the IL GOP suffer even more. Maybe they could've dragged Rodney Davis down in the process.

Pritzker was the first gubernatorial Democratic candidate to win DuPage County since the 1930s and every single county wide office went Democratic in Will County. The same almost happened in Lake.

Pre-election polls often showed Pritzker trailing in the Collar Counties but many of the undecideds ended up breaking for Pritzker.. lmao.

Imagine telling someone 10 years ago that a candidate like Pritzker would be the one who breaks through and wins DuPage County for a Democrat while losing Madison County, Illinois.

Though to be frank I think McCann may have cost Pritzker Madison County. He did have strong union support as well. Probably took votes from both major party candidates.
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2018, 06:59:10 PM »

Controversial candidate JB Pritzker accomplished what Gavin Newsom coud not do. Win the quintessential GOP suburban bastion of the state.

Considering how Democratic these late OC drops have been, I bet the county flips before December. there is only a 40K vote gap, and dems look to sweep the Districts there right now.
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2018, 07:09:53 PM »

Controversial candidate JB Pritzker accomplished what Gavin Newsom coud not do. Win the quintessential GOP suburban bastion of the state.

Considering how Democratic these late OC drops have been, I bet the county flips before December. there is only a 40K vote gap, and dems look to sweep the Districts there right now.

Wouldn't that mean Duncan Hunter and Valadao go down too if late ballots are that friendly?
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2018, 08:46:53 PM »
« Edited: November 10, 2018, 08:49:57 PM by Former Kentuckian »

Of course. Pritzker is trash and Rauner despite his failed tenure as governor was a pretty good fit for the Collar Counties.

I wish IL Dems could've nominated a strong candidate like Obama or Duckworth to make the IL GOP suffer even more. Maybe they could've dragged Rodney Davis down in the process.

I'm still sore about Rodney Davis just barely hanging on. Pritzker lost counties like McLean and Sangamon while Betsy Dirksen Londrigan won them, so I kind of blame Pritzker just a little. If we'd had someone not completely disgusting at the top of the ticket, she may have picked up the couple thousand votes she needed to win.
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