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« on: October 09, 2018, 04:36:14 PM »

He is currently an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Tarbert


”In 1998 he graduated with a Bachelor of Science in accounting and international business in 1998 from Mount St. Mary's University. He then attended University of Pennsylvania Law School, receiving a Juris Doctor in 2001 and a Doctor of Juridical Science in 2002. Tarbert later obtained a Master of Studies and a Doctor of Philosophy in comparative law from Oxford University in 2005, where he was a Thouron Scholar.”
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2018, 05:13:00 PM »

Uh, good for him.

Was he really preceded in his position by someone named Marisa Lago? That's hilarious if true.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2018, 11:33:05 AM »

To be honest, the SJD/JSD (the real legal doctoral degree) is purely a sign of someone who wasn't good enough at writing/publishing to get into legal academia without one, so it's actually more embarrassing than impressive. Most legal academics don't have one (in contrast to a PhD in other fields) because it is largely a waste of time.

JDs are not really doctoral degrees to begin with, as any lawyer with any degree of humility will admit. (I have one.)
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2018, 05:47:58 PM »

A JD/PhD is becoming fairly common for legal academics. And, as another poster said, there's nothing particularly impressive about an SJD.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2018, 08:40:07 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2018, 08:44:28 PM by TheBeardedOne »

To be honest, the SJD/JSD (the real legal doctoral degree) is purely a sign of someone who wasn't good enough at writing/publishing to get into legal academia without one, so it's actually more embarrassing than impressive. Most legal academics don't have one (in contrast to a PhD in other fields) because it is largely a waste of time.

JDs are not really doctoral degrees to begin with, as any lawyer with any degree of humility will admit. (I have one.)

A JD/PhD is becoming fairly common for legal academics. And, as another poster said, there's nothing particularly impressive about an SJD.


What are the most common PhD’s for Lawyers if they don’t pursue an SJD? Political Science? Philosophy? I know Oxford has a DPhil in Law. Yale has a PhD in Law as well as a SJD. Wouldn’t those two be the same?
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2018, 12:28:23 PM »

To be honest, the SJD/JSD (the real legal doctoral degree) is purely a sign of someone who wasn't good enough at writing/publishing to get into legal academia without one, so it's actually more embarrassing than impressive. Most legal academics don't have one (in contrast to a PhD in other fields) because it is largely a waste of time.

JDs are not really doctoral degrees to begin with, as any lawyer with any degree of humility will admit. (I have one.)

A JD/PhD is becoming fairly common for legal academics. And, as another poster said, there's nothing particularly impressive about an SJD.


What are the most common PhD’s for Lawyers if they don’t pursue an SJD? Political Science? Philosophy? I know Oxford has a DPhil in Law. Yale has a PhD in Law as well as a SJD. Wouldn’t those two be the same?


I'm not sure what the most common JD/PhDs are, but I had a couple professors who had a JD/PhD in political science, so I do think those are fairly common.

The distinction between an SJD and PhD differs from school to school. My understanding is that a lot of times the SJD is specifically geared for those who want to teach law school, and other times the SJD is targeted at those who originally received a law degree from a non-US school.
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