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Snipee356
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« on: November 16, 2018, 07:47:12 AM »

I see two possibilities: a continuation of Dem gains in suburbs combined with a further losses in the rural areas or (less likely) a slight reversal to 2012 with the region around Lake Erie bouncing back after the enormous swings in 2016 and Rep gains in the exurbs. The only two things which seem certain are that Utah will trend GOP and Iowa and ME-2 will trend Dem. What are your thoughts? I think this is a good way to discuss the election without letting cognitive biases about who will win get in the way.

Here is my very rough idea about the trends in 2020, though I am unsure of a lot which is why I didn't put in the percentages.



(I'm using the word 'trend' in the Atlas sense, i.e swing in the region - nationwide swing)

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2018, 08:28:10 AM »
« Edited: November 16, 2018, 08:03:20 PM by eric82oslo »

So these are the average monthly Trump approval ratings by state after Trump's first 22 months in office, according to Morning Consult:

Hawaii: -27.0%
Massachusetts: -25.4%
Vermont: -25.2%
Maryland: -22.1%
California: -20.1%
Rhode Island: -18.7%
Washington: -18.5%
Oregon: -16.0%
Illinois: -15.7%
Connecticut: -15.7%
New York: -14.5%
New Jersey: -13.3%
Minnesota: -13.0%
New Hampshire: -11.0%
Delaware: -10.8%
Colorado: -10.3%
Wisconsin: -9.9%
Michigan: -8.8%
New Mexico: -7.5%
Maine: -6.7%
Iowa: -5.9%
Pennsylvania: -3.4%
Virginia: -2.4%
Nevada: -2.1%
Ohio: -0.9%

Arizona: +1.8%
North Carolina: +2.9%
Utah: +4.4%
Florida: +4.9% (pre felon enfranchisement)
Georgia: +5.1%
Indiana: +6.2%
Missouri: +6.3%
Nebraska: +7.4%
Montana: +8.3%
Kansas: +8.3%
Texas: +8.3%
North Dakota: +8.4%
South Carolina: +11.3%
Alaska: +12.8%
South Dakota: +12.8%
Arkansas: +14.6%
Idaho: +15.3%
Kentucky: +15.5%
Tennessee: +16.2%
Oklahoma: +17.2%
Mississippi: +19.0%
Louisiana: +20.5%
West Virginia: +23.6%
Alabama: +25.4%
Wyoming: +30.0%

Now I will start to compare these approval ratings with the 2016 presidential margins, then we will see what comes up.

Clinton's margin versus Trump in 2016:

Washington D.C.: +86.4%
Hawaii: +32.2%
California: +30.1%
Massachusetts: +27.2%
Vermont: +26.4%
Maryland: +26.4%
New York: +22.5%
Illinois: +17.1%
Washington: +15.7%
Rhode Island: +15.5%
New Jersey: +14.0%
Connecticut: +13.6%
Delaware: +11.4%
Oregon: +11.0%
New Mexico: +8.2%
Virginia: +5.3%
Colorado: +4.9%
Maine: +3.0%
Nevada: +2.4%
Minnesota: +1.5%
New Hampshire: +0.4%

Michigan: -0.2%
Pennsylvania: -0.7%
Wisconsin: -0.8%
Florida: -1.2%
Arizona: -3.5%
North Carolina: -3.6%
Georgia: -4.1%
Ohio: -8.1%
Texas: -9.0%
Iowa: -9.4%
South Carolina: -14.3%
Alaska: -14.7%
Mississippi: -17.8%
Utah: -18.1%
Missouri: -18.6%
Indiana: -18.9%
Louisiana: -19.6%
Montana: -20.4%
Kansas: -20.6%
Nebraska: 25.0%
Tennessee: -26.0%
Arkansas: -26.9%
Alabama: -27.7%
South Dakota: -29.8%
Kentucky: -29.8%
Idaho: -31.8%
North Dakota: -35.7%
Oklahoma: -36.4%
West Virginia: -42.1%
Wyoming: -45.8%

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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2018, 09:27:07 AM »
« Edited: November 16, 2018, 05:46:54 PM by eric82oslo »

Net change from Trump's 2016 margin versus Trump's 2017-18 average approval.


For Clinton states:

Oregon: -5.0%
Rhode Island: -3.2%
Washington: -2.8%
Connecticut: -2.1%

Delaware: +0.6%
New Jersey: +0.7%
New Mexico: +0.7%
Vermont: +1.2%
Illinois: +1.4%

Average: +1.5%

Massachusetts: +1.8%
Maryland: +4.3%
Hawaii: +5.2%
New York: +8.0%
California: +10.0%


For battleground states (within 6%points):

Minnesota: -11.5%
Wisconsin: -10.7%
New Hampshire: -10.6%
Michigan: -9.0%
Colorado: -5.4%

Average: -4.5%

Pennsylvania: -4.1%
Maine: -3.7%
Arizona: -1.7%
North Carolina: -0.7%

Nevada: +0.3%
Georgia: +1.0%
Virginia: +2.5%
Florida: +3.7% (pre felon enfranchisement)


For Trump states:

weak Trump states (8% to 21%)

Iowa: -15.3%
Utah: -13.7%
Indiana: -12.7%
Missouri: -12.3%
Kansas: -12.3%
Montana: -12.1%
Ohio: -9.0%

Average: -8.3%

South Carolina: -3.0%
Alaska: -1.9%
Texas: -0.7%

Louisiana: +0.9%
Mississippi: +1.2%


strong Trump states (25%+)

North Dakota: -27.3%
Oklahoma: -18.8%
West Virginia: -18.5%
Nebraska: -17.6%
South Dakota: -17.0%
Idaho: -16.5%
Wyoming: -15.8%

Average: -15.5%

Kentucky: -14.3%
Arkansas: -12.3%
Tennessee: -9.8%
Alabama: -2.3%


9 out of the 13 battleground states from 2016 have become more negative towards Trump over the past two years.

It's remarkable how much more popular Trump is today in California and New York compared to in 2016. Reversely it's also remarkable that Trump is even more distasted in Oregon than his already low level in Oregon (and to a lesser degree in Washington) in 2016. More importantly, it's interesting to witness Oregon and Washington on one hand, and California on the other hand, going in completely different directions.

Deep Southern states like Mississippi and Louisiana seem even more fan of Trump today than they were in 2016. An oil rich, yet fairly protestant state like North Dakota, which has a lot of ancestry and broader culture in common with Minnesota, Wisconsin and Iowa, seems to be getting off the Trump wagon to a large extent. Same with the three other midwestern neighbours I just mentioned.

Of all states, Trump has gained the most in California, while he has lost by far the most in North Dakota, a state where he did tremendously well in 2016.

The numbers above give us this preliminary trend map - grey states are not likely to trend much either way:




PS: I would personally caution against the blue, Republican trends in Florida (in particular because of the much-mentioned enfranchisement), Texas (because of huge Democratic efforts to register millions of new voters) and Arizona (because Trump's anti immigrant rhethoric is particularily unwelcome in this state). Otherwise, the map seems fairly balanced to me.

In one sentence: The south will mostly become more Republican, with some exceptions, while the north will mostly become more Democratic, with some exceptions, possibly in the northeast (New York/Maryland).
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2018, 10:37:04 AM »

Wow! It's amazing that UT might trend Dem even with McMullin out of the picture. And the upper Midwest is looking good for Dems. However, NV, AZ and GA are surprising given the 2018 results.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2018, 11:24:56 AM »

Wow! It's amazing that UT might trend Dem even with McMullin out of the picture. And the upper Midwest is looking good for Dems. However, NV, AZ and GA are surprising given the 2018 results.

McMullin is at least 60% likely to run again in 2020, if not more, as an independent candidate. The other thing that could stop him would be Romney running as an independent instead. But then I wouldn't be surprised if he would be Romney's VP choice. Then I guess Romney would have to run from Massachusetts or Michigan or something, since I think it would be unconstitutional to have two Utah candidates on the same ticket.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2018, 08:28:16 PM »

New Jersey will not trend Republican again.
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