Pew nat. poll: 37% of Republicans would like to see a primary challenge to Trump
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« on: November 17, 2018, 01:06:26 AM »

Youngs and moderates are more likely than olds and conservatives to support a primary challenge to Trump:

http://www.people-press.org/2018/11/15/4-trump-the-2018-election-and-beyond/


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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 AM »

hahaha
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2018, 01:55:14 AM »

This is substantially decreasing from past polling, no?
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2018, 01:57:36 AM »

Jeff Flake can’t wait to use this a stepping stone to run for President and get 3% in Iowa.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2018, 07:51:14 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2018, 04:11:32 PM »

Even a lot of Republicans are embarrassed by Trump. A good portion of them would secretly love it if he stepped aside. They only feel they have to support him because of who he is.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2018, 04:12:52 PM »

That doesn't mean they would support said challenger though.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2018, 04:24:56 PM »

Personally, I'd vote for the ticket of Generic Democrat/Generic Republican primary challenger
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2018, 05:29:22 PM »

That doesn't mean they would support said challenger though.

Yeah, knowing GOP primary voters they probably just want to watch Trump humiliate an opponent for amusement purposes. I'm fine with that. The more he talks about a Republican, the less he will possibly talk about the Democrats. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2018, 06:45:49 PM »

I think it's healthy for the democracy if Trump's challenged, but they don't have a chance. Trump's too popular right now in the Republican base.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2018, 06:49:14 PM »

The problem is that those who would support a primary challenge are split between a few camps:

-Those who want a more moderate, Kasich-like GOP
-Those who want a more Reaganite, movement conservative GOP
-Those who want a more Corey Stewart-like GOP (and think Trump doesn't go far enough where he deviates)

Those three groups would never be able to agree on the same primary challenger to Trump, so I don't see a viable one emerging (unfortunately).
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2018, 06:51:37 PM »

-Those who want a more Corey Stewart-like GOP (and think Trump doesn't go far enough where he deviates)

These people exist? Do they want to lose by 15% in every state they run in, not just Virginia?

In all seriousness how many people are there who think Trump is a softy on immigration?
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2018, 07:05:27 PM »

-Those who want a more Corey Stewart-like GOP (and think Trump doesn't go far enough where he deviates)

These people exist? Do they want to lose by 15% in every state they run in, not just Virginia?

In all seriousness how many people are there who think Trump is a softy on immigration?

17% of midterm voters think Trump's immigration policies aren't tough enough.

ExtremeConservative is probably right on this one.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2018, 08:52:57 PM »

I think there's definitely 15-25% of the GOP primary electorate who would gladly vote for someone else in the primary, say "well, we tried our best," and then vote for Trump again in the general. I don't think a Kasich vanity run where Trump crushes Kasich 80-20 everywhere is particularly bad for Trump even if it would be the most serious primary challenge to a sitting president since 1992.
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2018, 09:48:15 PM »

Cripes. Only 37%. Not enough to topple Trump.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2018, 10:14:30 PM »

Anyone know how these numbers compare with past Presidents(such as Obama)?
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2018, 11:24:09 PM »

I don't see what line of attack a primary challenger could have on Trump. Criticising him for being 'unpresidential' sure, but as soon as it moves onto policy they're DOA with your average Republican primary voter.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2018, 11:25:08 PM »

Anyone know how these numbers compare with past Presidents(such as Obama)?
Not sure, but considering Obama ran unopposed in 2012, I'd say the numbers for Obama are very low.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2018, 11:34:12 PM »

Anyone know how these numbers compare with past Presidents(such as Obama)?
Not sure, but considering Obama ran unopposed in 2012, I'd say the numbers for Obama are very low.

I think there was some fevered speculation of a Hillary Clinton primary challenge, in September 2010 Gallup found Obama at 52% to Clinton 37%(https://news.gallup.com/poll/143318/obama-clinton-2012-democratic-nomination.aspx). However that is generous to Clinton as she was a pretty popular Secretary of State isolated from domestic politics while Obama's public image was far worse.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2018, 11:44:02 PM »

Anyone know how these numbers compare with past Presidents(such as Obama)?
Not sure, but considering Obama ran unopposed in 2012, I'd say the numbers for Obama are very low.

I think there was some fevered speculation of a Hillary Clinton primary challenge, in September 2010 Gallup found Obama at 52% to Clinton 37%(https://news.gallup.com/poll/143318/obama-clinton-2012-democratic-nomination.aspx). However that is generous to Clinton as she was a pretty popular Secretary of State isolated from domestic politics while Obama's public image was far worse.
Reminds me of that time Carter got challenged in 1980 from his own party and was still able to win, but Kennedy posed a pretty big threat.
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2018, 04:24:49 AM »

Batt could pull it off.
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2018, 04:28:15 AM »

It would be great if somebody halfway legitimate steps forward, can do reasonably well and stays in until the end. That'll draw back a lot of these disaffected former GOP voters (who I think will still vote against Trump in 2020) to vote in their primary and keep them out of our primary process for one more cycle. I'd really prefer it if 10% of our primary electorate isn't a bunch of George Will clones.
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2018, 09:34:31 AM »

The problem is that those who would support a primary challenge are split between a few camps:

-Those who want a more moderate, Kasich-like GOP
-Those who want a more Reaganite, movement conservative GOP
-Those who want a more Corey Stewart-like GOP (and think Trump doesn't go far enough where he deviates)

Those three groups would never be able to agree on the same primary challenger to Trump, so I don't see a viable one emerging (unfortunately).

Fair point, though I think the size of group three is either negligible or doesn’t bother with primaries to begin with
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2018, 09:59:25 AM »

LOL, I want to believe. Trump has a 90% approval rating among Republicans. The GOP is the Trump Party. I hope Drumpf gets challenged just to troll him.
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2018, 10:09:05 AM »

LOL, I want to believe. Trump has a 90% approval rating among Republicans.

Many of those people though would give a positive job approval rating to any Republican president, and it's not specific to Trump.  It's common in primaries for voters to have a positive opinion of multiple candidates at once.  I mean, Hillary Clinton had similarly high favorability #s about Democrats in 2016, and yet Sanders was able to get over 40% of the vote against her.

That said, there's something a bit different about being an incumbent president, and I don't think a challenger will be able to get more than about Buchanan '92 numbers against Trump.
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