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« on: February 25, 2019, 12:41:38 am »

this is what I think:

The race would be over after Super Tuesday 3 with this map:




The winner take all rules would give Kasich an insurmountable lead after Super Tuesday 2 and Cruz probably would crash and burn after that.


SC would be close but its history shows that it wouldnt be a state favorable to Cruz (both Huckabee and Santorum lost this state )



I really dont think Cruz would win any one on one battle even against Jeb.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2019, 11:24:21 am »



Ted Cruz - (60%) Winner
John Kasich - (39%)

Ted Cruz would have destroyed Kasich in a one on one match up. Many of the super Tuesday states had Cruz in 2nd and Kasich in 4th or 5th behind Carson. The only places Kasich would be viable in are the northeastern states and that's not enough to get Kasich over the finish line.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2019, 11:55:32 am »


Governor John Kasich - 54.9%
Senator Ted Cruz - 39.7%

After Kasich wins Indiana by almost five percent, Cruz drops out. In a handful of Western states, his supporters organize to send delegates to get more votes drafting the platform, but they only manage to capture Nebraska, Kansas, and Montana.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2019, 08:48:29 pm »


Governor John Kasich - 54.9%
Senator Ted Cruz - 39.7%

After Kasich wins Indiana by almost five percent, Cruz drops out. In a handful of Western states, his supporters organize to send delegates to get more votes drafting the platform, but they only manage to capture Nebraska, Kansas, and Montana.

How does Kasich win Indiana when he won 12 percent of the vote and trailed Cruz by 25 points? Plus who does he win Colorado, Wisconsin, Maine and Utah which are all States Cruz won in the primaries. How is Kasich winning states like Illinois, Arizona, Minnesota, Virginia, Florida, and Michigan when those are all states Kasich came in 3rd or 4th behind Cruz?
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2019, 08:52:43 pm »



SC would be close but its history shows that it wouldnt be a state favorable to Cruz (both Huckabee and Santorum lost this state )


Cruz is no Huckabee or Santorum. Both Huckabee and Santorum had no platform the second time they run. Both were out of office for years and were unable to be in the national spot light during the years 2013-2015. Cruz however will be in office and will be able to be in the national spotlight in the years 2021-2023 which will in turn be a huge benefit to his presidential aspirations.

Plus in 2016 without Rubio, Cruz would have won South Carolina
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2019, 09:00:07 pm »




I really dont think Cruz would win any one on one battle even against Jeb.

polls showed Republican voters favored Cruz over Trump 59-41. Trump only won 44 percent of the vote. That means the other 56% probably would have voted for Cruz. If Republicans would take Cruz over Trump in a one on one they would take Cruz over Jeb by even wider margins!
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2019, 09:59:25 pm »



SC would be close but its history shows that it wouldnt be a state favorable to Cruz (both Huckabee and Santorum lost this state )


Cruz is no Huckabee or Santorum. Both Huckabee and Santorum had no platform the second time they run. Both were out of office for years and were unable to be in the national spot light during the years 2013-2015. Cruz however will be in office and will be able to be in the national spotlight in the years 2021-2023 which will in turn be a huge benefit to his presidential aspirations.

Plus in 2016 without Rubio, Cruz would have won South Carolina


Lol No if he runs in 2024 he will be like what Huckabee was in 2016. Also Marco would have won SC if Cruz wasnt in the race.

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2019, 11:39:41 pm »

Cruz would've curbstomped Kasich.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2019, 12:46:23 am »

Cruz would've curbstomped Kasich.

No Cruz is extremely overrated and would just be the Huckabee and Santorum of this race while Kasich would be McCain/Romney.

A More Charismatic Walker would curbstop Kasich but not Cruz
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2019, 03:54:24 pm »



SC would be close but its history shows that it wouldnt be a state favorable to Cruz (both Huckabee and Santorum lost this state )


Cruz is no Huckabee or Santorum. Both Huckabee and Santorum had no platform the second time they run. Both were out of office for years and were unable to be in the national spot light during the years 2013-2015. Cruz however will be in office and will be able to be in the national spotlight in the years 2021-2023 which will in turn be a huge benefit to his presidential aspirations.

Plus in 2016 without Rubio, Cruz would have won South Carolina


Lol No if he runs in 2024 he will be like what Huckabee was in 2016. Also Marco would have won SC if Cruz wasnt in the race.



No he would be like the John McCain of 2024 cause he'll actually be one of the favorites to win the nomination. And sure Rubio would have won South Carolina if Cruz wasn't in the race but Cruz also would have won South Carolina if Rubio wasn't in the race. As well, Cruz was the stronger candidate to take on Donald Trump, Rubio couldn't even win his own home state against Trump. Rubio would have immediately folded if it were him vs Trump. Cruz however would have won the nomination without Rubio in the race.
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2019, 03:55:30 pm »

Cruz would've curbstomped Kasich.

No Cruz is extremely overrated and would just be the Huckabee and Santorum of this race while Kasich would be McCain/Romney.

A More Charismatic Walker would curbstop Kasich but not Cruz


I think a better word for Cruz is underestimated. Also even people who don't support Ted Cruz admit he would have destroyed Kasich.
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