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The Mikado
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« on: November 28, 2018, 12:03:48 PM »
« edited: July 14, 2020, 07:17:42 PM by Brittain33 »


Citing "Misconduct that has been ongoing for a number of years" but refusing to give any details, the NC State Board of Elections has refused to certify NC-09's results at this time.

   Mark Harris (R)     49.3    138,893

Dan McCready (D)     48.9    137,895

Jeff Scott (Libertarian)     1.8    5,101

Is how the results currently look. NC's State Board of Elections is supposedly currently looking into misconduct and irregularities in the race. The SBOE has two options: Certify Harris at the winner later after the investigation, or call for a new election and throw the election out.

Beyond the electoral significance, I really, really want to know what they claim is the misconduct here. 0.4% is a narrow margin, but not an absurdly narrow one.

Either way, it's possible that NC-09 becomes the first special election of 2019.
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2018, 12:48:53 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on November 28, 2018, 12:40:06 PM
henster posted more details in the general election night thread:


That's strange enough to warrant a deeper look.

If nothing else, I want a reporter to visit the precinct which doubled (!) turnout between 2016 and 2018 while the county as a whole saw turnout go down 12%. Must be a fascinating place.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2018, 01:06:53 PM »
http://www.wfae.org/post/nc-elections-investigator-seized-absentee-ballots-bladen-county#stream/0
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2018, 06:02:44 PM »
Quote from: Fmr. Gov. NickG on November 28, 2018, 05:55:07 PM
What is strange to me is that on one hand, this seems like it should be a huge story on the face or it, and yet as far as I can tell it hasn't been picked up by any of the national media at all, nor have any of the leading house election analysts (Silver/Cohn/Wasserman) given any comment on it, suggesting this is just some technicality than can be safely ignored.

It is a weird discrepancy. I think they're waiting because NC said more info on Friday.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2018, 04:09:41 PM »
Quote from: Prolocutor Bagel23 on November 29, 2018, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: henster on November 29, 2018, 03:04:02 PM


I don't believe that actually happened.

This is a parody account, right?
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2018, 02:06:39 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2018, 05:53:13 PM »


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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2018, 06:11:24 PM »
Stickied thread, yay!

Anyway, I think that new elections are the most likely outcome. This is serious fraud and too blatant to ignore, and the NCSBOE seems to know who they are investigating, in specific.
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2018, 02:06:58 AM »
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/606/just-what-i-wanted/act-two-0

From two years ago. Zoe Chace of TAL goes to Bladen County, NC to investigate GOP claims of Dem absentee voter fraud there.

I really want TAL to send her back down there to do the exact reverse story.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2018, 05:23:36 PM »


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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2018, 03:58:44 AM »


At this point, the only people still saying "just seat Harris" seem to be Harris and Bagel.

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Watch this video. Actual person doing this scheme interviewed and saying she just gave all the ballots she gathered to her superiors and has no idea if they were mailed or not.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2018, 12:41:34 PM »
Quote from: Brittain33 on December 04, 2018, 12:29:58 PM
Quote from: Young Conservative on December 04, 2018, 12:16:46 PM
Pat McCrory won Bladen county by 6 points. Roy Cooper won absentees by 23. Looks like there needs to be another investigation....into the governor.

Cool. What was the discrepancy statewide and in neighboring counties? What stands out with Harris’s fraud is how insane the numbers are compared to every other county in the state. He won absentees with 96% of the vote! Was Cooper in the 90s in Bladen?

Harris won 96% in the primary, mind. He "only" won 61% of absentees in the general.

The curious thing about the general is that the makeup of the absentee voter pool was something like 20% GOP, 40% Independent, 40% Democrat, so even factoring in Demosaurs, getting 61% for the R out of that pool is...implausible.
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2018, 02:07:15 PM »
Quote from: RogueBeaver on December 04, 2018, 01:45:30 PM


Read the thread: way worse than the first tweet implies.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2018, 04:32:09 PM »
Also, we really need to remind absentee voters that they shouldn't just...give their ballot...to some guy/gal. Mail in ballots are supposed to be mailed by you.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2018, 05:39:14 PM »


Richard Burr jumps on the "redo the election" bandwagon.
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2018, 06:12:12 PM »
Late February, after McCready wins the redo election:

Bagel: Disgraceful. Of course Harris did worse this time, this race was held after he was exposed as an election fraudster. Clearly unfair.
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2018, 06:18:51 PM »
Bagel just dug himself into a hole early on with his self-righteous skepticism and can't walk it back without fear of looking like an idiot, so he just keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper.

Sworn affidavits by voters? I don't believe them.

Wildly divergent voting patterns? Coincidence.

Testimony by the literal people who committed the absentee voter fraud? I don't believe them.

The GOP Senator of NC saying he thinks redoing the election is proper? What a shame.
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2018, 10:43:50 PM »
If Cooper can at least delay 10 days from the passing of the bill, that's 10 more days of investigation. That means Cooper should at least be able to delay to the 17th or 18th at least, depending on how many days it takes NC GOP to pass this in the first place. The NC SBOE said December 21st for the report, right? That's cutting it super-close for the NC GOP.
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2018, 10:49:21 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on December 05, 2018, 08:15:31 AM
Read this whole thread.  It's just...wow.



The best part is the two different fraud guys getting into an escalating blood feud of sorts with each other.
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2018, 03:10:51 PM »


Hot take: this election is proof of why voter fraud isn't endemic in America: to steal enough votes to make a difference, like these guys apparently did, you have to trigger a million alarm bells. Fraud on the scale necessary, as committed here, leaves a gigantic paper trail.
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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2018, 09:13:17 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2018, 11:47:32 PM »
Quote from: pppolitics on December 05, 2018, 11:46:13 PM
CNN: More than a thousand absentee ballots possibly destroyed

Clearly, though, we should still seat Harris for...reasons.

Starting to think Harris is more likely to see the inside of an NC jail cell than the US Capitol.
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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2018, 12:27:02 PM »


NRCC Chair open to special election.
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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2018, 12:48:51 PM »




Why is it a thing that people on this site are more supportive of Harris than either the North Carolina GOP or the GOP nationally, all of whom seem OK with redoing the race?
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2018, 02:35:30 AM »
Did Jimrtex seriously post eight consecutive times a bit ago?
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