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« on: November 29, 2018, 09:18:32 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2018, 09:41:37 pm »

There are probably a lot in WV,RI,and HI(Since those are Carter 80 , Reagan 84 and Dukakis 88 States)
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2018, 12:48:30 pm »

Here’s a few:
Every county in Hawaii except Honolulu
Bristol and Kent, RI
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2018, 01:02:28 am »

Many in Tx and La.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2019, 12:50:34 pm »

Marquette, MI and Washtenaw, MI
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2019, 10:01:59 am »

  • Cherokee, AL
  • Marengo, AL
  • Walker, AL
  • Ashley, AR
  • Bradley, AR
  • Clay, AR
  • Lawrence, AR
  • Little River, AR
  • Monroe, AR
  • Nevada, AR
  • Poinsett, AR
  • Randolph, AR
  • St. Francis, AR
  • Hartford, CT
  • Clarke, GA
  • De Kalb, GA
  • Pulaski, GA
  • Randolph, GA
  • Hawaii, HI
  • Kauai, HI
  • Maui, HI
  • Perry, IN
  • Bath, KY
  • Boyd, KY
  • Carlisle, KY
  • Carroll, KY (Reagan was first Republican to ever win this county)
  • Gallatin, KY (tied between Reagan and Mondale)
  • Graves, KY
  • Greenup, KY
  • Henderson, KY
  • Henry, KY
  • Hickman, KY
  • McCracken, KY
  • McLean, KY
  • Marion, KY
  • Owen, KY
  • Robertson, KY
  • Trimble, KY
  • Ascension Parish, LA
  • Assumption Parish, LA
  • Bienville Parish, LA
  • Calcasieu Parish, LA
  • Cameron Parish, LA
  • De Soto Parish, LA
  • East Feliciana Parish, LA
  • Jefferson Davis Parish, LA
  • Saint John the Baptist Parish, LA
  • Saint Landry Parish, LA
  • Saint Martin Parish, LA
  • Berkshire, MA
  • Hampden, MA
  • Alger, MI
  • Delta, MI
  • Genesee, MI
  • Lake, MI
  • Marquette, MI
  • Washtenaw, MI
  • Clearwater, MN
  • Dakota, MN
  • Kanabec, MN
  • Mille Lacs, MN
  • Washington, MN
  • Benton, MS
  • Clay, MS
  • Issaquena, MS
  • Jefferson Davis, MS
  • Sunflower, MS
  • Tallahatchie, MS
  • Boone, MO
  • Buchanan, MO
  • Dunklin, MO
  • Howard, MO
  • Monroe, MO (Reagan was first Republican to ever win this county)
  • New Madrid, MO
  • Pemiscot, MO
  • Ralls, MO
  • Ray, MO
  • Sainte Genevieve, MO
  • Shannon, MO
  • Niagara, NY
  • Chatham, NC
  • Columbus, NC
  • Duplin, NC
  • Granville, NC
  • Greene, NC
  • Jones, NC
  • Martin, NC
  • Scotland, NC
  • Swain, NC
  • Athens, OH
  • Summit, OH
  • Atoka, OK
  • Bryan, OK
  • Choctaw, OK
  • Harmon, OK
  • Jefferson, OK
  • Johnston, OK
  • Latimer, OK
  • Love, OK
  • McCurtain, OK
  • McIntosh, OK
  • Marshall, OK
  • Okfuskee, OK
  • Okmulgee, OK
  • Pittsburg, OK
  • Pushmataha, OK
  • Tillamook, OR
  • Lackawanna, PA
  • Bristol, RI
  • Kent, RI
  • Bamberg, SC
  • Giles, TN
  • Lewis, TN
  • Bastrop, TX
  • Baylor, TX
  • Burleson, TX
  • Caldwell, TX
  • Cameron, TX
  • Camp, TX
  • Case, TX
  • Comanche, TX
  • Concho, TX
  • Crosby, TX
  • Delta, TX
  • Falls, TX
  • Fannin, TX
  • Hardeman, TX
  • Hardin, TX
  • Haskell, TX
  • Jasper, TX
  • Kent, TX
  • Kleberg, TX
  • Knox, TX
  • Limestone, TX
  • McCulloch, TX
  • Marion, TX
  • Milam, TX
  • Montague, TX
  • Navarro, TX
  • Nolan, TX
  • Nieces, TX
  • Polk, TX
  • Rains, TX
  • Red River, TX
  • Sabine, TX
  • San Augustine, TX
  • San Jacinto, TX
  • San Patricio, TX
  • San Saba, TX
  • Shelby, TX
  • Throckmorton, TX
  • Titus, TX
  • Travis, TX
  • Trinity, TX
  • Tyler, TX
  • Waller, TX
  • Chittenden, VT
  • Grand Isle, VT
  • Caroline County, VA
  • Greensvilel County, VA
  • Lee County, VA
  • Wise County, VA
  • Franklin City, VA
  • Roanoke City, VA
  • Barbour, WV
  • Calhoun, WV
  • Gilmer, WV
  • Greenbrier, WV
  • Harrison, WV
  • Kanawha, WV
  • Marshall, WV
  • Nicholas, WV
  • Pocahontas, WV
  • Raleigh, WV
  • Summers, WV
  • Taylor, WV
  • Tucker, WV
  • Wayne, WV
  • Wetzel, WV
  • Burnett, WI
  • Dunn, WI
  • Eau Claire, WI
  • Iowa, WI
  • Pierce, WI
  • Polk, WI
  • Saint Croix, WI
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2019, 11:59:53 pm »

Amazing to me how many counties in the South (for example, Walker and Cherokee counties in Alabama) backed Michael Dukakis, a self-proclaimed liberal.  The swing to the Republicans over the last 20 years in these areas has been remarkable and massive.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2019, 06:35:03 am »

  • Cherokee, AL
  • Marengo, AL
  • Walker, AL
  • Ashley, AR
  • Bradley, AR
  • Clay, AR
  • Lawrence, AR
  • Little River, AR
  • Monroe, AR
  • Nevada, AR
  • Poinsett, AR
  • Randolph, AR
  • St. Francis, AR
  • Hartford, CT
  • Clarke, GA
  • De Kalb, GA
  • Pulaski, GA
  • Randolph, GA
  • Hawaii, HI
  • Kauai, HI
  • Maui, HI
  • Perry, IN
  • Bath, KY
  • Boyd, KY
  • Carlisle, KY
  • Carroll, KY (Reagan was first Republican to ever win this county)
  • Gallatin, KY (tied between Reagan and Mondale)
  • Graves, KY
  • Greenup, KY
  • Henderson, KY
  • Henry, KY
  • Hickman, KY
  • McCracken, KY
  • McLean, KY
  • Marion, KY
  • Owen, KY
  • Robertson, KY
  • Trimble, KY
  • Ascension Parish, LA
  • Assumption Parish, LA
  • Bienville Parish, LA
  • Calcasieu Parish, LA
  • Cameron Parish, LA
  • De Soto Parish, LA
  • East Feliciana Parish, LA
  • Jefferson Davis Parish, LA
  • Saint John the Baptist Parish, LA
  • Saint Landry Parish, LA
  • Saint Martin Parish, LA
  • Berkshire, MA
  • Hampden, MA
  • Alger, MI
  • Delta, MI
  • Genesee, MI
  • Lake, MI
  • Marquette, MI
  • Washtenaw, MI
  • Clearwater, MN
  • Dakota, MN
  • Kanabec, MN
  • Mille Lacs, MN
  • Washington, MN
  • Benton, MS
  • Clay, MS
  • Issaquena, MS
  • Jefferson Davis, MS
  • Sunflower, MS
  • Tallahatchie, MS
  • Boone, MO
  • Buchanan, MO
  • Dunklin, MO
  • Howard, MO
  • Monroe, MO (Reagan was first Republican to ever win this county)
  • New Madrid, MO
  • Pemiscot, MO
  • Ralls, MO
  • Ray, MO
  • Sainte Genevieve, MO
  • Shannon, MO
  • Niagara, NY
  • Chatham, NC
  • Columbus, NC
  • Duplin, NC
  • Granville, NC
  • Greene, NC
  • Jones, NC
  • Martin, NC
  • Scotland, NC
  • Swain, NC
  • Athens, OH
  • Summit, OH
  • Atoka, OK
  • Bryan, OK
  • Choctaw, OK
  • Harmon, OK
  • Jefferson, OK
  • Johnston, OK
  • Latimer, OK
  • Love, OK
  • McCurtain, OK
  • McIntosh, OK
  • Marshall, OK
  • Okfuskee, OK
  • Okmulgee, OK
  • Pittsburg, OK
  • Pushmataha, OK
  • Tillamook, OR
  • Lackawanna, PA
  • Bristol, RI
  • Kent, RI
  • Bamberg, SC
  • Giles, TN
  • Lewis, TN
  • Bastrop, TX
  • Baylor, TX
  • Burleson, TX
  • Caldwell, TX
  • Cameron, TX
  • Camp, TX
  • Case, TX
  • Comanche, TX
  • Concho, TX
  • Crosby, TX
  • Delta, TX
  • Falls, TX
  • Fannin, TX
  • Hardeman, TX
  • Hardin, TX
  • Haskell, TX
  • Jasper, TX
  • Kent, TX
  • Kleberg, TX
  • Knox, TX
  • Limestone, TX
  • McCulloch, TX
  • Marion, TX
  • Milam, TX
  • Montague, TX
  • Navarro, TX
  • Nolan, TX
  • Nieces, TX
  • Polk, TX
  • Rains, TX
  • Red River, TX
  • Sabine, TX
  • San Augustine, TX
  • San Jacinto, TX
  • San Patricio, TX
  • San Saba, TX
  • Shelby, TX
  • Throckmorton, TX
  • Titus, TX
  • Travis, TX
  • Trinity, TX
  • Tyler, TX
  • Waller, TX
  • Chittenden, VT
  • Grand Isle, VT
  • Caroline County, VA
  • Greensvilel County, VA
  • Lee County, VA
  • Wise County, VA
  • Franklin City, VA
  • Roanoke City, VA
  • Barbour, WV
  • Calhoun, WV
  • Gilmer, WV
  • Greenbrier, WV
  • Harrison, WV
  • Kanawha, WV
  • Marshall, WV
  • Nicholas, WV
  • Pocahontas, WV
  • Raleigh, WV
  • Summers, WV
  • Taylor, WV
  • Tucker, WV
  • Wayne, WV
  • Wetzel, WV
  • Burnett, WI
  • Dunn, WI
  • Eau Claire, WI
  • Iowa, WI
  • Pierce, WI
  • Polk, WI
  • Saint Croix, WI

Wow that's a ton
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2019, 04:02:38 pm »

Pretty sure that's every Carter 80 / Reagan 84 county in Wisconsin and Iowa.

EDIT: There were no Carter 80 / Reagan 84 counties in Iowa, so this statement is still technically correct.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2019, 07:29:43 pm »

Amazing to me how many counties in the South (for example, Walker and Cherokee counties in Alabama) backed Michael Dukakis, a self-proclaimed liberal.  The swing to the Republicans over the last 20 years in these areas has been remarkable and massive.
Indeed, Dukakis seems like an awful fit for the South.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2019, 12:20:30 pm »

Amazing to me how many counties in the South (for example, Walker and Cherokee counties in Alabama) backed Michael Dukakis, a self-proclaimed liberal.  The swing to the Republicans over the last 20 years in these areas has been remarkable and massive.
Indeed, Dukakis seems like an awful fit for the South.

Had Atlas existed in 1989, "A Democrat from outside the South will never win the Presidency in our lifetimes," would be a consensus opinion.
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2019, 02:20:59 pm »

Amazing to me how many counties in the South (for example, Walker and Cherokee counties in Alabama) backed Michael Dukakis, a self-proclaimed liberal.  The swing to the Republicans over the last 20 years in these areas has been remarkable and massive.
Indeed, Dukakis seems like an awful fit for the South.

Had Atlas existed in 1989, "A Democrat from outside the South will never win the Presidency in our lifetimes," would be a consensus opinion.
I think that was a common belief at the time.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2019, 08:28:58 am »

Amazing to me how many counties in the South (for example, Walker and Cherokee counties in Alabama) backed Michael Dukakis, a self-proclaimed liberal.  The swing to the Republicans over the last 20 years in these areas has been remarkable and massive.
Indeed, Dukakis seems like an awful fit for the South.

Had Atlas existed in 1989, "A Democrat from outside the South will never win the Presidency in our lifetimes," would be a consensus opinion.
I think that was a common belief at the time.

As someone who was 12 years old in 1989, and whose family watched the evening news every night together, can confirm.
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2019, 07:45:55 pm »

Amazing to me how many counties in the South (for example, Walker and Cherokee counties in Alabama) backed Michael Dukakis, a self-proclaimed liberal.  The swing to the Republicans over the last 20 years in these areas has been remarkable and massive.

This is not quite true.

Virginia is lean D consistently now.  Florida is a tossup, and North Carolina is tilt R.  Georgia and Texas are on the path to becoming swing states.  South Carolina and Mississippi are more Democratic at the Presidential level than they were in 1988, and significantly so.  These are the areas of the South that are gaining in minorities as a percentage of the population, and where the white population has a significant number of Northern transplants.  (Mississippi is an exception to the latter, but blacks as a percentage of the population, and of the voting population, is increasing.)

The parts of the South that have swung the most toward the GOP are, arguably, the states that were Bill Clinton's best states.  Arkansas, Tennessee, and Louisiana have swung sharply to the GOP.  Arkansas and Tennessee have swung because they have low black populations, and because they are highly religious, churchgoing states, while the Democrats have become progressively more hostile to Evangelicals.  Louisiana's shift has resulted due to the Cajun Catholics swinging to the GOP on all levels, in no small measure due to the abortion issue, as well as the Democratic Party's hostility to the Fossil Fuel industry.  The trend toward the GOP has not been uniform amongst white Southern voters; the Anglo-Saxon white voters and the Scot-Irish white voters have led the way for the most part. 

What HAS happened in the South is that the South, as a whole, is more Republican at the local and state level.  This has been partly due to the fact that Southern white conservative Democratic voters found themselves voting for Democrats who said they were conservatives, but who provided key support for liberal legislation as needed.  The end of the seniority system in Congress and the process of making committee chairs more responsive to the Democratic caucus enhanced the disconnect between the average Southern Democrat and his/her LOCAL candidates.  The end result of all of this is that nowadays, state Democratic Parties in the South are pretty much as liberal as they wish to be; they're hope is in changing demographics, and not in winning the hearts and minds of moderate white voters. 

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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2019, 07:28:01 am »
« Edited: October 27, 2019, 08:24:25 am by mianfei »

Actually, “Fuzzy Bear”, even in those states that are relatively less Republican than in 1988, there have been huge swings to the GOP in all white rural areas – even in those traditionally Republican due to Unionist loyalties from the Civil War. In 2016, Hilary’s best white rural county in the South (“South” is taken as the Confederacy, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky and West Virginia) was Carroll County, KY – mentioned above as having even voted for George McGovern due to its historic secessionist Democratic loyalties – but even that county gave her a mere 28 percent of its ballots.

This is certainly due to the greater centrality of social issues among rural whites than in the 1980s – when the factors driving whites to vote for Reagan and Bush Senior were much more concentrated in suburban areas and influenced by the twin issues of economic conservatism and crime. Large parts of the rural white South had escaped most of the increasing violent crime of the 1970s and 1980s, were not entirely supportive of Reagan’s tax cuts, and were hit by major farm problems during an extensive drought affecting most of the US outside the Northeast between 1984 and 1988. Louisiana was also hit by low oil prices, which Dukakis promised to remedy.

In contrast, since the middle 1990s the rural white South has been preoccupied with what they view as the moral degeneracy of urban and even suburban America – homosexual rights, abortion (with the Cajun Catholics no doubt all artificial contraception), atheism, punitive environmental regulation, violence in music and films, and government aid to urban minorities. This was how Bush Junior managed to win the 2000 election – although he was when one considers the likely preferences of third-party voters outpolled by a wider margin than was Trump – and how counties in Cajun Louisiana and coal country have gone from supporting Dukakis by substantial margins to voting around 87 percent for Trump.
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