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President Phil Scott
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« on: November 30, 2018, 12:05:50 PM »

Discuss, for example electing the top two vote-receivers, holding simultaneous elections, abolishing "classes", introducing new term limits, more frequent elections, splitting each state into 2 equal districts, etc.

And other ideas?

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President Phil Scott
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 07:51:21 PM »

Give the ten most populous states 3 senate seats each, and the ten least populous states 1 senate seat each. Reapportion as necessary after every census. You might have somewhat unbalanced senate classes (and/or have to hold extra special elections), but that's not the end of the world.

Still not a perfect system, but it's a major improvement imo.

Except you can't change each State having the same number of Senators unless all the States agree. That's never going to happen. About the only changes that realistically could happen would be to increase the size of the Senate to 3 Senators per State or decrease the term length to 4 years so that each State elects 1 Senator per general election.

I never said it would happen.

But that entrenchment clause isn't that much of an extra barrier, since it can be amended. Since you'd have to amend the constitution to change how the senate is apportioned anyway, you just amend article five and then amend article one.

Except an argument could be made that the article 5 amendment IS, in fact, denying equal representation in the Senate, and so is impermissible under the existing constitutional provisions Smiley

Which would be a political decision up to Congress to decide.  That said, Our politics would have to be considerably more broken than it is now before an amendment to end equal suffrage of the States in the Senate would get a majority, let alone two-thirds of the Senate and three-fourths of the States.  Far more likely would be an amendment to limit the powers of the Senate and make it more like the 19th century House of Lords instead of the 18th century version it is now.
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President Phil Scott
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 06:52:34 PM »

I would be shocked if the Supreme Court decided to strike down a constitutional amendment that received two-thirds support in Congress and was ratified by 3/4 of the state legislatures.
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President Phil Scott
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2018, 11:19:37 AM »

Turn the Senate into the chamber of proportional representation. Every 2 years a national Senate election takes place, in which 33 Senators are elected to 6-year terms. Voters vote for parties rather than candidates, and the seats are allocated to the parties based on percentage of the vote.

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