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smoltchanov
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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2018, 12:43:38 AM »

Not much would change, 2018 sorta proved that people only care about party, not ideology.

Tell that to Charlie Baker, Phill Scott, Larry Hogan and Chris Sununu....
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2018, 01:38:48 AM »

God this is rapidly turning into the dumbest thread of the lame-duck period.
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2018, 04:39:37 AM »

God this is rapidly turning into the dumbest thread of the lame-duck period.

Almost any "generalized" or "fantasy" thread does...
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2018, 08:04:38 AM »

Given that the Republicans consistantly paint Democrats to the left of Marx, probably not that big of a difference.
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2018, 08:30:40 AM »

Given that the Republicans consistantly paint Democrats to the left of Marx, probably not that big of a difference.


Well, if we take into account direction they are moving in the last 15-20 years, and speed of it - in the near future they will be to the left of Marx)))
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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2018, 11:05:20 AM »

Obviously if Gillum had run like more of a typical establishment Democrat, he would've won in a landslide! Just like Nel- oh.... right. Just like Republicans would've done so much worse better worse better worse better worse, I mean better, I mean... (insert one here) if they had distanced themselves more from Trump. People don't care about issues, they care about their favorite letter/color.
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« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2018, 11:11:48 AM »


This.  I think 2018 actually said surprisingly little about the LONGTERM trajectory of both parties.  It was about Trump, period.  Democrats were the opposing party in a midterm with an unpopular President, and they won the areas where he was the most unpopular.  More importantly, it wasn't a specific type of candidate - those areas that flipped voted for all kinds of different Democrats.

The GOP faced a reckoning for Trump, and there was one way for the electorate to give it to them: elect Democrats (of all sorts).  They would have done the same for "Sanders Democrats."
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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2018, 12:06:07 PM »
« Edited: December 12, 2018, 12:13:50 PM by Senator Zaybay »

There would be little to no difference. This thread is foolishly assuming that voters in the general electorate:
A. have a core Ideology that they subscribe to
B. Votes based on said Core Ideology
Anyone who does is most likely a partisan or election nut(AKA Atlas).
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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2018, 12:09:41 PM »

There would be little to no difference. This thread is foolishly assuming that the general electorate has:
A. A core Ideology
B. Votes based on a Core Ideology
Anyone who does is most likely a partisan or election nut(AKA Atlas).
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« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2018, 01:32:38 PM »


This.  I think 2018 actually said surprisingly little about the LONGTERM trajectory of both parties.  It was about Trump, period.  Democrats were the opposing party in a midterm with an unpopular President, and they won the areas where he was the most unpopular.  More importantly, it wasn't a specific type of candidate - those areas that flipped voted for all kinds of different Democrats.

The GOP faced a reckoning for Trump, and there was one way for the electorate to give it to them: elect Democrats (of all sorts).  They would have done the same for "Sanders Democrats."

lol come on, according to CNN exit polls, only 38% of the electorate said their vote was to Oppose Drumpf. And I guarantee you that some of those wouldn't have voted D if the D was too extreme.

33% said Trump was not a factor and 44% of that 33% voted D...and I guarantee you that a decent chunk would not have voted D if they felt that they were too extreme.

There is a reason that candidates calibrate their stances to their district or state. It's a simple fact that being regarded as too far left or too far right can be too much of a millstone around your neck.

Come on guys. I know y'all are jealous of Trump and his general awesomeness but you gotta learn to just cope with it.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/exit-polls
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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2018, 01:35:21 PM »

Come on guys. I know y'all are jealous of Trump and his general awesomeness but you gotta learn to just cope with it.

You're trying too hard.
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« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2018, 01:49:45 PM »

Come on guys. I know y'all are jealous of Trump and his general awesomeness but you gotta learn to just cope with it.

You're trying too hard.

Or not hard enough?  Either way, complete shlt poster, LOL.
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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2018, 02:57:29 PM »

Come on guys. I know y'all are jealous of Trump and his general awesomeness but you gotta learn to just cope with it.

You're trying too hard.
His gimmick ran out of steam pretty fast. It's boring at best now.
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2018, 04:25:27 PM »

Obviously if Gillum had run like more of a typical establishment Democrat, he would've won in a landslide! Just like Nel- oh.... right. Just like Republicans would've done so much worse better worse better worse better worse, I mean better, I mean... (insert one here) if they had distanced themselves more from Trump. People don't care about issues, they care about their favorite letter/color.
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« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2018, 04:29:49 PM »

Come on guys. I know y'all are jealous of Trump and his general awesomeness but you gotta learn to just cope with it.

You're trying too hard.

Or not hard enough?  Either way, complete shlt poster, LOL.
If you want to help ban him  https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=308772.0
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« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2018, 07:14:04 PM »

Yeah, it wouldn't have made much of a difference. Almost no one votes based on ideology.

Lots of people vote based on ideology, but very few "swing voters" do.
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« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2018, 07:40:09 PM »

Yeah, it wouldn't have made much of a difference. Almost no one votes based on ideology.

Lots of people vote based on ideology, but very few "swing voters" do.

Neither "swing voters" nor "core voters" care about ideology. Otherwise, T***p wouldn't have been the Republian nominee.
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« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2018, 07:55:22 PM »

Yeah, it wouldn't have made much of a difference. Almost no one votes based on ideology.

Lots of people vote based on ideology, but very few "swing voters" do.
Neither "swing voters" nor "core voters" care about ideology. Otherwise, T***p wouldn't have been the Republian nominee.

To be fair, he didn't win the primary popular vote. He was only able to get through because the "core voters" were split between the mainstream candidates while his base was united.
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« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2018, 07:58:39 PM »

Yeah, it wouldn't have made much of a difference. Almost no one votes based on ideology.

Lots of people vote based on ideology, but very few "swing voters" do.

Neither "swing voters" nor "core voters" care about ideology. Otherwise, T***p wouldn't have been the Republian nominee.

Trump was conservative enough for much of the GOP base. He did lose votes in the primary to Ted for not being hardcore enough though. That proves my point. Ideology isn't the only factor, but it is a big factor.

also lol @ all the people ITT still suffering Russia Derangement Syndrome or calling me a troll because I keep pwning them and even saying I'm "bad at it" despite the fact that they get so easily affected

not a troll btw
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