R&P vs Democratic Underground Religion(Group)

[James Monroe]

Contrast the two forum of discussion surrounding the topic of religion.


DU religion board actively challenges the dogma that pollutes the sink that is faith. Just look at how much critical free thinking these people have, while this forum is lacking the aggressive bent one needs in order to loudly proclaimed your religion. Just look at how much truth many of the posters constantly post about the indoctrination and bigotry of the church.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1218

[°Leprechaun]

We definitely could use a lot more people who think like you here.
This forum is becoming too much of a "Christians only" forum.
Just look at the number of threads for Christians only.
Very sad.

[TJ in Oregon]

Contrast the two forum of discussion surrounding the topic of religion.


DU religion board actively challenges the dogma that pollutes the sink that is faith. Just look at how much critical free thinking these people have, while this forum is lacking the aggressive bent one needs in order to loudly proclaimed your religion. Just look at how much truth many of the posters constantly post about the indoctrination and bigotry of the church.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1218

I notice your actively challenging critical thought still has not deigned to answer the questions I asked you in your previous thread.

[RFayette]

Atlas is more religious than DemocraticUnderground, it seems.  But there have always been a mix of Christians and non-Christians here.  If you think your arguments aren't being heard or properly understood that challenge Christianity and other religions, then please tell us where we are in error.  But it's important to recognize that both religious and nonreligious people alike can value critical thinking and truth highly (or lowly!).

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

We definitely could use a lot more people who think like you here.
This forum is becoming too much of a "Christians only" forum.
Just look at the number of threads for Christians only.
Very sad.

I'll grant that this board skews towards Christian topics, but there's only one in the first two pages that specifies Christian-only and that one is asking Christians to share their view of hell, so that specification was probably to prevent pointless "Hell doesn't exist" posts from antagonistic atheists. Tho it would've been interesting to get viewpoints from other religions that include a hell in their belief system.

No one's stopping people from starting threads about other faiths besides Christianity and Atheism (the number two belief system mentioned here).

[°Leprechaun]

We definitely could use a lot more people who think like you here.
This forum is becoming too much of a "Christians only" forum.
Just look at the number of threads for Christians only.
Very sad.

I'll grant that this board skews towards Christian topics, but there's only one in the first two pages that specifies Christian-only and that one is asking Christians to share their view of hell, so that specification was probably to prevent pointless "Hell doesn't exist" posts from antagonistic atheists. Tho it would've been interesting to get viewpoints from other religions that include a hell in their belief system.

No one's stopping people from starting threads about other faiths besides Christianity and Atheism (the number two belief system mentioned here).

It's a two way street. If Christians want to post here they don't need to get upset when their views are challenged. It seems pretty silly to be surprised if an atheist is going to challenge Christians who feel so emboldened when attacking atheism and making uniformed statements about what atheists believe as if atheists belonged to some vast conspiracy to persecute Christians. Also there seems to be a lot of tribalism and group think among a number of those here who identify as Christians. I haven't seen a lot of "warm and fuzzy" Christians on this site.
Also this forum would improve immensely if posters could lighten up a bit and not take everything so personally.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Maybe it's because I don't make such arguments myself, I haven't particularly noticed "atheists believe ..." arguments by Christians here. I have noticed our resident Gnostic troll making many " Christians believe ... " posts.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I would rather be surprised if those who professed un-belief were attracted to a board about religion, just as much as I would not expect someone with an apolitical disposition to come to Atlas to discuss politics. The existence of atheist activists is certainly a relevant point, but they are not really your typical nonbeliever, and even as a nonbeliever myself I rather like that we don't have a confluence of such types; I find that their grasp of theology rarely matches up to their conviction, to put it charitably.

     I do wish we had more philosophy threads, though.

[DC Al Fine]

Contrast the two forum of discussion surrounding the topic of religion.


DU religion board actively challenges the dogma that pollutes the sink that is faith. Just look at how much critical free thinking these people have, while this forum is lacking the aggressive bent one needs in order to loudly proclaimed your religion. Just look at how much truth many of the posters constantly post about the indoctrination and bigotry of the church.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1218

I notice your actively challenging critical thought still has not deigned to answer the questions I asked you in your previous thread.

Ha rekt

[RINO Tom]

Atlas is more religious than DemocraticUnderground, it seems.  But there have always been a mix of Christians and non-Christians here.  If you think your arguments aren't being heard or properly understood that challenge Christianity and other religions, then please tell us where we are in error.  But it's important to recognize that both religious and nonreligious people alike can value critical thinking and truth highly (or lowly!).

This.  There is no "Christian bias" on Atlas ... it is my experience that many non-Christians want to enter any type of debate/discussion with the pre-established notion that Christians are "faith thinkers" and non-Christians are "logic thinkers," and any stray from this upsets them.  They're willing to be "civil" so long as the Christian in the argument concedes immediately that their beliefs are motivated by nothing but blind faith/they believe in their religion because it makes them *feel good*.  This is a completely ridiculous starting point, and anyone who comes in with that attitude form the get-go (like the OP) is not going to be debated or taken seriously.

[°Leprechaun]

Maybe it's because I don't make such arguments myself, I haven't particularly noticed "atheists believe ..." arguments by Christians here. I have noticed our resident Gnostic troll making many " Christians believe ... " posts.

I've seen some Christians here arguing that Christians agree on certain dogma. That dogma is what non-Christians challenge. I also don't think that someone who challenges the Atlas Borg collective is a troll. If his posts challenge you so much you are free to ignore them.
Christian dogma is very complex; I have no doubt about that.
If Christianity were about living a good life or following certain ethical standards, I would have no problem with it.* It could be about following a path, but people here seem more interesting in talking about dogma.
When in Rome... at when at atlas... it is futile to resist a culture (all over the internet btw), that is more interested in quarreling than in free and open discussion of ideas.

*and btw I know people who are Christians in real life who do walk the walk.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Tho it would've been interesting to get viewpoints from other religions that include a hell in their belief system.

It would have been neat if somebody had had the opportunity to bring up the afterlife in Chinese folk religion in that thread.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Tho it would've been interesting to get viewpoints from other religions that include a hell in their belief system.

It would have been neat if somebody had had the opportunity to bring up the afterlife in Chinese folk religion in that thread.

Interesting.  Are animals meant to be regarded as less than a human being in Hell?