The Official 2020 Census Thread

[Gass3268]

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YES!!! VICTORY!

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1144254491136528384

Which will be hard to do now that there is clear evidence of racist intent.

[Nyvin]

It's going to be extremely difficult to get a valid explanation in and then add in the question considering it's already June 27th and the deadline is June 30th...

[RI]

It's going to be extremely difficult to get a valid explanation in and then add in the question considering it's already June 27th and the deadline is June 30th...

The actual deadline is 10/31 though

[Tender Branson]

A bit surprising, but I already speculated about it months ago:

Until recently, I thought that they will rule in favour of including it - but Roberts might again take the moderate approach here and side with the Dem-leaning judges.

Yet I still believe that there would be absolutely no problem in asking this question in a census, because virtually all countries do. The US is just an outlier here.

[Cashew]

It's going to be extremely difficult to get a valid explanation in and then add in the question considering it's already June 27th and the deadline is June 30th...

The actual deadline is 10/31 though

But the Trump administration has been telling us all along that June 30 is the deadline!

[Gass3268]

It's going to be extremely difficult to get a valid explanation in and then add in the question considering it's already June 27th and the deadline is June 30th...

The actual deadline is 10/31 though

Gonna be hard to come up with a valid reason now that there is written evidence that shows racist intent.

[Tender Branson]

It's going to be extremely difficult to get a valid explanation in and then add in the question considering it's already June 27th and the deadline is June 30th...

The actual deadline is 10/31 though

But the Trump administration has been telling us all along that June 30 is the deadline!

Not the Trump administration, the Census Bureau.

June 30 is the deadline for printing the Census forms, to ensure a smooth preparation for the coming advertising and census operations.

I think October 31 is probably the last theoretically possible time to include the question on the forms, but that would lead to logistical nightmares, as Alaska already starts to count in early January ...

[Annatar]

It's pretty funny that basically every other country in the world asks for citizenship in its census but this is seen is as a right wing issue in America, shows how far to the left America is on some issues.

[Tender Branson]

It's pretty funny that basically every other country in the world asks for citizenship in its census but this is seen is as a right wing issue in America, shows how far to the left America is on some issues.

Correct.

If a migrant is coming to Austria, Germany, Norway etc. - that migrant is automatically registered at either the national population register, a community register or some other register (labour, social) - by citizenship.

Case solved. Nothing controversial. It's highly absurd that it's such a politicized issue in the US.

[Gass3268]

It's pretty funny that basically every other country in the world asks for citizenship in its census but this is seen is as a right wing issue in America, shows how far to the left America is on some issues.

There is literally written evidence that the intent for adding the citizenship question is racist. We get all the data that we need on citizenship from the mass survey that goes out in the 5's years.

[Oryxslayer]

It's pretty funny that basically every other country in the world asks for citizenship in its census but this is seen is as a right wing issue in America, shows how far to the left America is on some issues.

There is literally written evidence that the intent for adding the citizenship question is racist. We get all the data that we need on citizenship from the mass survey that goes out in the 5's years.

Yep, if you go on the census site now (well maybe not now per say considering their site is in the middle of overhauls) you can find citizenship data from the census bureaus other projects like ACS. Adding the Q to the main form is just a partisan move.

https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/1144281883959689217

[Tintrlvr]

It's pretty funny that basically every other country in the world asks for citizenship in its census but this is seen is as a right wing issue in America, shows how far to the left America is on some issues.

It goes back to the fundamentally racist jus sanguinis policy in most Old World countries vs. jus soli in the United States (and most New World countries). The default assumption in jus soli countries is that most people are citizens, and questioning citizenship is inappropriate. The default assumption in jus sanguinis countries is that people who don't "fit in" aren't citizens, so questioning citizenship is normal. That Europe and much of the rest of the Old World world has calamitously bad immigration policies compared to the U.S. and most other New World countries is not really news.

[Person Man]

It's pretty funny that basically every other country in the world asks for citizenship in its census but this is seen is as a right wing issue in America, shows how far to the left America is on some issues.

It goes back to the fundamentally racist jus sanguinis policy in most Old World countries vs. jus soli in the United States (and most New World countries). The default assumption in jus soli countries is that most people are citizens, and questioning citizenship is inappropriate. The default assumption in jus sanguinis countries is that people who don't "fit in" aren't citizens, so questioning citizenship is normal. That Europe and much of the rest of the Old World world has calamitously bad immigration policies compared to the U.S. and most other New World countries is not really news.

It's amazing for how long those policies have been bad and how at one point, basically all of their problems could have been blamed on them.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Trump now wants to delay the census:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1144298731887628288

[MasterJedi]

Yes, good luck on delaying the constitutionally mandated census. What a moron.

[Tender Branson]

Wow, Trump's a real clown.

"Delay" the Census ? The Constitution clearly says "must be held every 10 years".

[Joe Biden 2024]

Trump now wants to delay the census:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1144298731887628288

Classic Trump move. He doesn't get his way so he decides to throw a tantrum instead.

[Gass3268]

Wow, Trump's a real clown.

"Delay" the Census ? The Constitution clearly says "must be held every 10 years".

Plus Federal law says it must start by April.

[GeorgiaModerate]

LOL:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1144254723257753602

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Trump now wants to delay the census:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1144298731887628288

Classic Trump move. He doesn't get his way so he decides to throw a tantrum instead.

This is more than a tantrum. This is (another) impeachable offense.

Article I, Section 2, Clause 3:

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse [sic] three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 8:

Before he enters the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Mr. Trump is not a legitimate President. The prolonged failure of Congress in removing him from office is a grievous wound to our government and our nation.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Yes, good luck on delaying the constitutionally mandated census. What a moron.

Yes, good luck on delaying the constitutionally mandated census. What a moron.

He doesn't care. To him the Constitution might as well be a place setting for one of his double bacon cheeseburgers.

By the way, I don't know if it's more reassuring or worrying that Roberts seems to be a coin flip of the worst kind when it comes to recent rulings.

[Tender Branson]

The Dept. of Commerce has no clue what to do next after the SC halted their plans for the citizenship question to be added to the Census forms ...

https://www.govexec.com/management/2019/06/commerce-officials-silent-after-supreme-court-blocks-census-question/158111

That's good news for the opponents of the question: printing of the 2020 forms excl. the question is planned to start tomorrow already.

The Trump administration might try to delay that (and there is probably some time left until the end of July or August), but ultimately the Census Bureau will order the forms to be printed in September or so because it would create logistical problems otherwise.

And then there's no way back anymore ...

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/Dan_F_Jacobson/status/1146153111393886208

[Gass3268]

They have been instructed to start the printing process!!!

https://twitter.com/Dan_F_Jacobson/status/1146156516787052544