The Official 2020 Census Thread

[Nyvin]

Trump admits defeat....question won't be on the census.

[The Dowager Mod]

Great news! 

[Progressive Pessimist]

Wow! A very rare outright win for decency.

[Tender Branson]

Trump administration concedes on census citizenship question

The Trump administration said on Tuesday it would begin printing forms for the 2020 US census without a controversial question asking about citizenship, following a key decision by the US supreme court last week blocking the proposal.

A Department of Justice spokeswoman confirmed that the question would not be included on the census, which is constitutionally mandated to take place every 10 years.

The commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, confirmed that the forms were being printed without the question, saying in a statement: “I respect the Supreme Court but strongly disagree with its ruling regarding my decision to reinstate a citizenship question on the 2020 Census.”

“The Census Bureau has started the process of printing the decennial questionnaires without the question,” Ross continued. “My focus, and that of the Bureau and the entire Department is to conduct a complete and accurate census.”

The announcement follows a US supreme court decision last week that temporarily blocked Trump’s administration from adding a citizenship question to the form, arguing that the government had failed to provide an acceptable justification for wanting the information.

The ruling in effect froze the administration’s plan to include the question but left unclear whether there would be enough time for the administration to provide the court with a better explanation that meets judicial approval. The administration had previously said a decision was needed by 30 June, though other officials have said it could be delayed until the fall.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/02/us-census-citizenship-question-trump

Now it's crucial that as many Americans possible take part in the Census early next year and there's also about 500.000 jobs to be filled for the operation.

[emailking]

Trump says it's not true.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1146435093491277824

[MasterJedi]

Trump says it's not true.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1146435093491277824

This is for the cult who will believe it's there, even when they don't see it on the census they'll think it was there for others.

[Gass3268]

Both the Commerce Department and DOJ have said there won't be the census question, but Trump's rant is actually causing emergency court hearings right now:

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1146501610270527488

[Santander]

I hope Trump defies the courts.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/lawrencehurley/status/1146511910197768194

[Tender Branson]

This is getting annoying.

Trump needs to shut the f**k up and let the CB print the forms without the question now, so that everything can be prepared smoothly for the count next year.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I hope Trump defies the courts.

You don't think there are enough reasons to impeach him yet?

[Gass3268]

DOJ has been ordered to try to get the question back on:

https://twitter.com/mikesacksesq/status/1146524615273013249?s=21

[Santander]

Department of Injustice

[Gass3268]

DOJ had no idea what to argue to the judge:

https://twitter.com/ericcolumbus/status/1146529858534694913?s=21

[GeorgiaModerate]

It's like the Keystone Kops are running the government.

[Hindsight was 2020]

This is getting annoying.

Trump needs to shut the f**k up and let the CB print the forms without the question now, so that everything can be prepared smoothly for the count next year.

1 hour later
https://mobile.twitter.com/EricColumbus/status/1146529858534694913
https://mobile.twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1146533664496291840
https://mobile.twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1146534879808708614

[Progressive Pessimist]

Wow! A very rare outright win for decency.

Well, so much for that. Easy come, easy go.

The Justice Department seems to consistently act like an overbearing mother to the Toddler-in-Chief. He throws a tantrum and then in comes the Justice Department to pop a pacifier in his mouth and sing him a lullaby.

[emailking]

Fox is burying this story on their page. I'm not sure I understand why as I would have thought the reversal would be pleasing to the Trump base.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Fox is burying this story on their page. I'm not sure I understand why as I would have thought the reversal would be pleasing to the Trump base.

Maybe Fox thinks Trump's gonna lose again and they don't wanna be embarrassed?

[Gass3268]

I am so confused

https://twitter.com/klasfeldreports/status/1146541673729667074?s=21

[Tender Branson]

“By Wednesday afternoon, whatever frustration that Mr. Trump had with the commerce secretary had largely dissipated, a second administration official said, and the president was focused on finding a way to add a question to the census.

Mr. Trump told aides that might mean tacking on a question after census questionnaires had been printed.“

[Ye We Can]

I hope Trump defies the courts.

Judge Hazel has made his decision, now let him enforce it!

[Tender Branson]

The options forward for Trump (incl. executive orders) are very limited:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/04/politics/census-path-forward-white-house/index.html

Eventually, this nut will fold.

The good thing is that the forms are already being printed and this was not stopped so far and Trump faces a deadline of today already of giving a good enough reason to include the question.

And because the constitution mandates a Census every 10 years by April 1, Trump also cannot issue an executive order delaying it, because it would be immediately halted by a Court.

[Tender Branson]

Census 2020: Trump pursues citizenship question without firm plan

The Trump administration will continue to pursue a way of adding a citizenship question to the census, lawyers said in court filings submitted on Friday. But administration lawyers failed to provide any legal justification for the census question by a court deadline. The Supreme Court rejected the initial rationale for adding the question to the 2020 census as "contrived".

Why has the issue come back?

It appeared settled when government lawyers indicated they had dropped the question, and officials began printing the census without it. That reportedly infuriated President Trump, who announced that his administration would pursue the issue.

But a deadline of 14:00 (18:00 GMT) on Friday set by a Maryland district judge came and went, with no clear indication from the administration on how they planned to add the citizenship question. Government lawyers said only that the justice and commerce departments had been "instructed to examine whether there is a path forward".

President Trump said on Friday an executive order was among the options he was considering to force the question on to the census.

"We have four or five ways we can do it," Mr Trump told reporters, suggesting the administration could "maybe do an addendum" after getting a positive decision. But legal experts say executive orders could not override Supreme Court decisions. US media reported that the administration was considering using separate federal records to try to gather information about undocumented immigrants.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48890233

[Nyvin]

President Sh!t-for-brains gives up the game:

Responding to reporters outside the White House on Friday, Trump said the question was necessary “for many reasons.”

“Number one, you need it for Congress — you need it for Congress for districting,” Trump said. “You need it for appropriations — where are the funds going? How many people are there? Are they citizens? Are they not citizens? You need it for many reasons.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-census-citizenship-question-redisctricting_n_5d1f94eee4b0f3125683a549

This totally flies in the face of the Commerce Dept's reasons for the questions,  which is to better enforce the voting rights act.  

This also completely goes in conjunction with what the Hofeller files suggest - that adding the question would benefit Republican areas in both Redistricting and Federal funding.

"OOPSIE!"