Is God’s plan on track? Were we created to be sinners?

[Greatest I am]

Is God’s plan on track? Were we created to be sinners?

Many think that God has a plan for all of us sinners, a perfect plan actually, to get as many of us into heaven as possible. Even all of us, if God is as perfect as some say he is. No God worth the title would have it any other way.

God's plan can never go off track or be fouled as that would show a weakness in God and his ability to plan perfectly.

The above being irrefutable, if there is a God and a plan, indicates that this reality is the best that Yahweh can accomplish?

It is interesting that scriptures say that to backslide is evil, while it ignores that if there is a plan in place, then the world is in it’s best possible form. Scriptures that show a backsliding God and world must be wrong.

Thanks to God’s plan, we are living in perfection. To think otherwise would be seeing God get a fail on maintaining the initial perfection of creation.

In the beginning, all was perfect. That perfection cannot be allowed to backslide if there is a God.
 
Do you see God as a backslider or a God whose plan is running along in a perfect way?

Sing the hymn with me of Adam’s sin. It says that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.

Were we created to be sinners?

Regards
DL

[°Leprechaun]

Is God’s plan on track? Were we created to be sinners?

Many think that God has a plan for all of us sinners, a perfect plan actually, to get as many of us into heaven as possible. Even all of us, if God is as perfect as some say he is. No God worth the title would have it any other way.

God's plan can never go off track or be fouled as that would show a weakness in God and his ability to plan perfectly.

The above being irrefutable, if there is a God and a plan, indicates that this reality is the best that Yahweh can accomplish?

It is interesting that scriptures say that to backslide is evil, while it ignores that if there is a plan in place, then the world is in it’s best possible form. Scriptures that show a backsliding God and world must be wrong.

Thanks to God’s plan, we are living in perfection. To think otherwise would be seeing God get a fail on maintaining the initial perfection of creation.

In the beginning, all was perfect. That perfection cannot be allowed to backslide if there is a God.
  
Do you see God as a backslider or a God whose plan is running along in a perfect way?

Sing the hymn with me of Adam’s sin. It says that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.

Were we created to be sinners?

Regards
DL

I don't believe that we were created to be sinners.
Are you familiar with "A Course in Miracles"?

[°Leprechaun]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/brandan-robertson/4-teachings-of-jesus-that_b_6343320.html

An interesting pov.

Bill Maher's explication is interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvDtPz33w0

"Jesus lays on that hippy stuff pretty thick"
"It's in that book when you scream at Gay People"
"It's like joining Greenpeace and hating Whales"
"I can say that because I'm a non Christian, just like most Christians"

The Dhammapada gets it right
All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/sbe10/sbe1003.htm

[Greatest I am]

Is God’s plan on track? Were we created to be sinners?

Many think that God has a plan for all of us sinners, a perfect plan actually, to get as many of us into heaven as possible. Even all of us, if God is as perfect as some say he is. No God worth the title would have it any other way.

God's plan can never go off track or be fouled as that would show a weakness in God and his ability to plan perfectly.

The above being irrefutable, if there is a God and a plan, indicates that this reality is the best that Yahweh can accomplish?

It is interesting that scriptures say that to backslide is evil, while it ignores that if there is a plan in place, then the world is in it’s best possible form. Scriptures that show a backsliding God and world must be wrong.

Thanks to God’s plan, we are living in perfection. To think otherwise would be seeing God get a fail on maintaining the initial perfection of creation.

In the beginning, all was perfect. That perfection cannot be allowed to backslide if there is a God.
  
Do you see God as a backslider or a God whose plan is running along in a perfect way?

Sing the hymn with me of Adam’s sin. It says that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.

Were we created to be sinners?

Regards
DL

I don't believe that we were created to be sinners.
Are you familiar with "A Course in Miracles"?

No.

If not created to be sinners as this quote says we are, then how much of the bible do you actually literally believe?

Psalm 51:5 "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me."

This notion may also be why God says he hated Esau even in the womb.

Further, if we are not created to be sinners, how is it that we do not have any who are not sinners?

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/brandan-robertson/4-teachings-of-jesus-that_b_6343320.html

An interesting pov.

Bill Maher's explication is interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvDtPz33w0

"Jesus lays on that hippy stuff pretty thick"
"It's in that book when you scream at Gay People"
"It's like joining Greenpeace and hating Whales"
"I can say that because I'm a non Christian, just like most Christians"

The Dhammapada gets it right
All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/sbe10/sbe1003.htm

Many recognize the hypocrisy of most theists, especially of the revealed supernaturalstupid based religions like Christianity and Islam.
 
Regards
DL

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

If Gnosticism isn't a revealed religion, what is it, random scribbling you post to self-justify whatever you want to do?

[Greatest I am]

If Gnosticism isn't a revealed religion, what is it, random scribbling you post to self-justify whatever you want to do?

It is a creed of perpetual seekers who have not settled for an invisible guy in the sky.

That alone makes it better than the revealed religions and their spernaturalstupid thinking.


Regards
DL

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Just because people here for the most part no longer find you amusing because your shtick has gotten stale is no reason to start spewing vulgarities.

You act as if the thing you seek most is not enlightenment but attention.  If so, I pity you, because while there are many paths of enlightenment that can lead to sustained fulfillment, no one yet has been able to make attention lead to sustained fulfillment.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

You thought I was discussing you?

Perish the thought!

No, I was discussing the idea of how to find sustained fulfillment. You weren't the subject of my previous post, but your actions here provided an example of how to not find it.

[Mopsus]

Is God’s plan on track? Were we created to be sinners?

Many think that God has a plan for all of us sinners, a perfect plan actually, to get as many of us into heaven as possible. Even all of us, if God is as perfect as some say he is. No God worth the title would have it any other way.

God's plan can never go off track or be fouled as that would show a weakness in God and his ability to plan perfectly.

The above being irrefutable, if there is a God and a plan, indicates that this reality is the best that Yahweh can accomplish?

It is interesting that scriptures say that to backslide is evil, while it ignores that if there is a plan in place, then the world is in it’s best possible form. Scriptures that show a backsliding God and world must be wrong.

Thanks to God’s plan, we are living in perfection. To think otherwise would be seeing God get a fail on maintaining the initial perfection of creation.

In the beginning, all was perfect. That perfection cannot be allowed to backslide if there is a God.
  
Do you see God as a backslider or a God whose plan is running along in a perfect way?

Sing the hymn with me of Adam’s sin. It says that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.

Were we created to be sinners?

Regards
DL

I don't believe that we were created to be sinners.
Are you familiar with "A Course in Miracles"?

If “A Course in Miracles” is a book, he won’t be familiar with it. He doesn’t read books.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Armageddon is upon us, the earth will end, eventually. Man wasmt meant to live forever. So, death is the price you pay for sin.

[Greatest I am]

Armageddon is upon us, the earth will end, eventually. Man wasmt meant to live forever. So, death is the price you pay for sin.

We all die for sure, naturally. To say we die because of our sins is showing a mental condition or blind spot that denies nature will kill you whether you sin or not.

Babies die. How many sinner babies do you know?

Regards
DL