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Question: Is there a constitutional right to free association?
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Citizen James
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« on: November 01, 2005, 07:56:34 PM »

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As long as they do so peacefully, I would say so.

The three rulings cited appear to be in tune with first amendment.
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Citizen James
James42
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2005, 04:16:38 PM »

Read the relevant case law.

The four stooges voted to dismantle free association. All we need is one more liberal extremist on that court, and churches could be forced to ordain women or homosexuals as priests.

Care to elucidate for those of us who are not mind readers?

As far as I can guestimate from your rather short posts, your reference to the 'four stooges' could, I suppose, refer to the dissenting opinions in Boy scouts v. Dale.  I will go so far as to agree that the dissent in that case was weak, though I think it is a valid point that if you are going to discriminate you ought to be open about it.  From this you add a massive slippery slope arguement, despite the lack of similar dissent in the Roberts v. Jacees case.  I am still waiting to find out why you consider the NAACP case to be relevant.

Personally, I prefer liberal/libertarian leaning moderates.   I know in some people's shallow black and white worlds there are only extreme conservatives and extreme liberals, but the real world involves compromise, negotiation, and subtlety rather than the eternal conflict and hatered.  But, as those who have studied history know all too well - even when one group of extremists wins, they just end up fighting amongst each other between the extreme and ultra extreme.  See the French revolution for more details.
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