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« on: December 31, 2018, 12:12:58 AM »

A huge uptake in people owning firearms in a country whose social fabric is already being torn apart at the seams?

What could go wrong...

Also, Atlas "lefties" are so terrible on this issue. If you wanna be #populists, be populists on the backs of your own school kids. Don't strive for other countries to become shooting-infested nations like your country. It's not even funny seeing all of you cheer for this with the full knowledge that dozens of kids are dying every year in your country because of gun violence, with weak gun control being the only thing differentiating you from other countries and thus the probable cause for these deaths- it's disgusting.
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 03:55:17 AM »

A huge uptake in people owning firearms in a country whose social fabric is already being torn apart at the seams?

What could go wrong...

Also, Atlas "lefties" are so terrible on this issue. If you wanna be #populists, be populists on the backs of your own school kids. Don't strive for other countries to become shooting-infested nations like your country. It's not even funny seeing all of you cheer for this with the full knowledge that dozens of kids are dying every year in your country because of gun violence, with weak gun control being the only thing differentiating you from other countries and thus the probable cause for these deaths- it's disgusting.




Or just maybe it's to do with the gross levels of income inequality, racial inequality and conflict and a non-existent welfare state and social fabric.

Mass non-terroristic gun shootings aren't equivalent to homicides of all sorts, and those mass-shootings are massively more frequent in the US than in the rest of the world, there's just no denying it. It's funny how pro gun socialists and libertarians both blame poor people for gun violence- stop muddying the water, mass shootings aren't rare at all even in the whitest, most well-to-do neighborhoods. Not everything is caused by economic woes.
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Parrotguy
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 04:31:33 AM »

A huge uptake in people owning firearms in a country whose social fabric is already being torn apart at the seams?

What could go wrong...

Also, Atlas "lefties" are so terrible on this issue. If you wanna be #populists, be populists on the backs of your own school kids. Don't strive for other countries to become shooting-infested nations like your country. It's not even funny seeing all of you cheer for this with the full knowledge that dozens of kids are dying every year in your country because of gun violence, with weak gun control being the only thing differentiating you from other countries and thus the probable cause for these deaths- it's disgusting.




Or just maybe it's to do with the gross levels of income inequality, racial inequality and conflict and a non-existent welfare state and social fabric.

Mass non-terroristic gun shootings aren't equivalent to homicides of all sorts, and those mass-shootings are massively more frequent in the US than in the rest of the world, there's just no denying it. It's funny how pro gun socialists and libertarians both blame poor people for gun violence- stop muddying the water, mass shootings aren't rare at all even in the whitest, most well-to-do neighborhoods. Not everything is caused by economic woes.

A homicide is a homicide though, whether it is "mass" or not. Gun Control only stops mass shootings and results in homicides being done by other means and has a negligible impact on the homicide rate (which is the relevant crime rate when discussing gun control).

Homicides are much more frequent in us than the rest of the (western world) but that's not due to loose gun laws. Data and results from other countries show there is no correlation between homicides, violent crimes and gun control. Australia enacted major gun control, NZ did not, both countries had a lowering of the homicide rate the by the same rate.

Switzerland has loose gun control and a low homicide rate and very rare mass shooting. Again the issue is not to do with gun control.

But it does matter. Regular homicide is vastly different from mass shootings so frequent in the US. I mean, denying this fact is just being morally dishonest and twisting facts to fit your ideology, all on the backs of dozens of corpses- the US is the only country where these mass shootings, especially in schools, regularly happen. There's also no denying that the only possible reason is gun laws, because all other factors between the US and the rest of the world are similar. There's no compelling reason to give people guns so freely with this in mind and the studies others pointed out, it's simply dumb.

And the most amusing takeaway I have from this is how socialists and libertarians both love blaming poor people Tongue
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Parrotguy
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 04:56:25 AM »

A huge uptake in people owning firearms in a country whose social fabric is already being torn apart at the seams?

What could go wrong...

Also, Atlas "lefties" are so terrible on this issue. If you wanna be #populists, be populists on the backs of your own school kids. Don't strive for other countries to become shooting-infested nations like your country. It's not even funny seeing all of you cheer for this with the full knowledge that dozens of kids are dying every year in your country because of gun violence, with weak gun control being the only thing differentiating you from other countries and thus the probable cause for these deaths- it's disgusting.




Or just maybe it's to do with the gross levels of income inequality, racial inequality and conflict and a non-existent welfare state and social fabric.

Mass non-terroristic gun shootings aren't equivalent to homicides of all sorts, and those mass-shootings are massively more frequent in the US than in the rest of the world, there's just no denying it. It's funny how pro gun socialists and libertarians both blame poor people for gun violence- stop muddying the water, mass shootings aren't rare at all even in the whitest, most well-to-do neighborhoods. Not everything is caused by economic woes.

A homicide is a homicide though, whether it is "mass" or not. Gun Control only stops mass shootings and results in homicides being done by other means and has a negligible impact on the homicide rate (which is the relevant crime rate when discussing gun control).

Homicides are much more frequent in us than the rest of the (western world) but that's not due to loose gun laws. Data and results from other countries show there is no correlation between homicides, violent crimes and gun control. Australia enacted major gun control, NZ did not, both countries had a lowering of the homicide rate the by the same rate.

Switzerland has loose gun control and a low homicide rate and very rare mass shooting. Again the issue is not to do with gun control.

But it does matter. Regular homicide is vastly different from mass shootings so frequent in the US. I mean, denying this fact is just being morally dishonest and twisting facts to fit your ideology, all on the backs of dozens of corpses- the US is the only country where these mass shootings, especially in schools, regularly happen. There's also no denying that the only possible reason is gun laws, because all other factors between the US and the rest of the world are similar. There's no compelling reason to give people guns so freely with this in mind and the studies others pointed out, it's simply dumb.

And the most amusing takeaway I have from this is how socialists and libertarians both love blaming poor people Tongue

Again, Finland, New Zeland and Switzerland have loose gun control laws and still have very rare mass shootings.

The rest of the world is also a stupid example as gun violence is daily life in many countries around the world, so the US is not immune to this.

Again, regarding studies that show how gun control has reduced homicides ignore the fact that crime has been reducing all together and gun control is not the result of that.

I mean I'm blaming poverty and inequality, which is obviously the root issue (alongside mental illness) of countries with higher gun violence vs those with not, but apparently, that's blaming poor people.

Regarding gun violence and the suicide rate, gun control does probably reduce the suicide rate but funding for mental illness and having programs related to such will be a much better reducer of the suicide rate.


But you've just been told that Switzerland, for example, tightened the rules. I'm also sure that the American gun culture coupled with the loose rules contributes to it. And again, homicide rates aren't the story, the story is that only America has these mass non terroristic shootings every month, sometimes several times a month. It's madness, and there's no way to explain it other than loose gun laws and a toxic gun culture caused by them.
But it's fine. You can just ignore a very compelling solution for the sake of populism. These school kids dying doesn't affect you anyway, and The Onion posting a "nothing we can do about it, says the only nation where this regularly happens" headline several times a month is just amusing.
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Parrotguy
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 10:53:51 AM »

A huge uptake in people owning firearms in a country whose social fabric is already being torn apart at the seams?

What could go wrong...

Also, Atlas "lefties" are so terrible on this issue. If you wanna be #populists, be populists on the backs of your own school kids. Don't strive for other countries to become shooting-infested nations like your country. It's not even funny seeing all of you cheer for this with the full knowledge that dozens of kids are dying every year in your country because of gun violence, with weak gun control being the only thing differentiating you from other countries and thus the probable cause for these deaths- it's disgusting.

Speaking of dozens of kids dying, aren't there some Palestinian schoolchildren throwing rocks somewhere that need "taking care of"?

Possibly, luckily our "taking care of" consists of taking every measure to save innocent lives on both sides (and obviously priotrizing ours), and not just bombing civilian buildings without any warning and killing freely like a certain leader of the free world Wink
Oh and we also don't target kindergartens with missiles but you know
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