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King of Kensington
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« on: October 28, 2019, 10:48:59 AM »
I think most would agree the "farm belt" Midwest would be included but does it also take in say, Indiana, Texas, the interior West etc.?
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 10:50:22 AM »
Anything from the Rockies to the Appalachians.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2019, 02:25:04 PM »
Quote from: Dr. RI on October 28, 2019, 10:50:22 AM
Anything from the Rockies to the Appalachians.

But not the South.  Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana,  Texas, Kentucky aren't the "heartland"
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2019, 03:31:00 PM »
The Midwest.  The Deep South and Appalachia are their own animal.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2019, 04:22:40 PM »
No votes for the non-Great Lakes Midwest?
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2019, 04:36:22 PM »
Quote from: libertpaulian on October 28, 2019, 03:31:00 PM
The Midwest.  The Deep South and Appalachia are their own animal.


Yup when I think of heartland I really only think really of the Midwest cause isnt the full term Industrial Heartland
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2019, 07:29:52 PM »

What even is that? Iowa and Missouri?
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2019, 07:56:59 PM »
The five states bounded by the Ohio River, Mississippi River, and Canada: Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2019, 08:21:33 PM »
Quote from: Tintrlvr on October 28, 2019, 07:29:52 PM

What even is that? Iowa and Missouri?
IA, MO, ND, SD, NE, KS, arguably MN.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2019, 09:48:40 PM »
The Midwest, so options 1 & 2, especially 1.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2019, 01:36:29 PM »
Any state not on the Atlantic or Pacific coasts.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2019, 02:05:54 PM »
Quote from: jimrtex on October 30, 2019, 01:36:29 PM
Any state not on the Atlantic or Pacific coasts.

I have always thought of the Heartland is just the Midwest and MAYBE the Upper South.  The Deep South and the Mountain West and the Southwest are usually separated out in most people's minds, including mine.  Also, "coasts" are overrated.  Vermont has more in common with Maine than it does Ohio, obviously, and South Carolina is much, much more similar to Tennessee than it is Delaware.
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2019, 06:03:26 PM »
everything in the north dakota-kansas-ohio triangle
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2019, 06:22:10 PM »
I remember spending hours playing the "Heartland" map on RT2 back in the day.  This was the approximate extent of the map:



Looks pretty good to me.  Midwest + Tennessee Valley + Appalachians.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2019, 08:08:11 PM »
NYTimes asked this same question:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/03/upshot/where-is-americas-heartland-pick-your-map.html
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2019, 08:42:52 PM »
uhhhh like, all of America except Alaska and Hawaii because they are separate.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2019, 11:03:58 PM »
Quote from: King of Kensington on October 28, 2019, 10:48:59 AM
I think most would agree the "farm belt" Midwest would be included but does it also take in say, Indiana, Texas, the interior West etc.?


How is Indiana not farm belt Midwest?
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2019, 04:22:05 PM »
The "heartland" doesn't actually include anything since the term is mostly just a rhetorical device used by politicians as a way to reference the vaguely non-urban/small town, working-class population.
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2019, 03:13:38 PM »
The Midwest
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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2019, 07:10:20 PM »
The Midwest, I guess? TBH it's really a term that I use or think about much...
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2019, 02:51:47 PM »
The Iowa-Wisconsin or Wisconsin-Iowa football game is called the Battle of the Heartland, though this name may be fairly recent origin, or at least the Heartland Trophy is (2004).
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2019, 09:51:55 PM »
Quote from: gracile on November 01, 2019, 04:22:05 PM
The "heartland" doesn't actually include anything since the term is mostly just a rhetorical device used by politicians as a way to reference the vaguely non-urban/small town, working-class population.

I disagree. There are numerous businesses, community organizations, etc right here in Chicago named after this nickname.

I'm going with this as a definition:
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