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« Reply #1325 on: October 14, 2019, 10:19:03 am »

The Greens have presented their new parliamentary group today to the public, in their first common work meeting:


They said that out of the 26, more than 25% have a migrant background.

15 are women (+1 female Pirate on a Green ticket is missing in the picture).

Half are under the age of 40.

For all I know, the female Pirate, Maria Chlastak, didn't get a seat.
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« Reply #1326 on: October 14, 2019, 10:27:24 am »
« Edited: October 14, 2019, 10:36:19 am by Tender Branson »

I thought Maria Chlastak was elected ...  Roll Eyes

It seems Ralph Schallmeiner is missing on the picture.
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« Reply #1327 on: October 14, 2019, 11:54:26 pm »

After the election is before the election ...

The important Styria state election is coming up on Nov. 24 and if trends continue, the VP will end up with 35-40% there, the SP around 20-25%, the FP at 15-20%, the Greens at 10-15% and Communists and NEOS with around 5% each.

Meanwhile, the SP's infighting and chaos continues just like before the election. The most recent topic was if a major SP politician is allowed to drive a 80.000 Porsche in private.

The presence of the strong Communist Party in Styria is also not helping them. I think they could drop to 20% or lower next month. That would be a total destruction for the SP in Styria, considering they once had 40%+ there and it is a major mining, steel and (car parts) production state.
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« Reply #1328 on: October 15, 2019, 03:43:42 am »

Coalition exploration talks between the Kurz-VP and the Kogler-Greens will start on Friday, 10am and will last at least 3 hours.
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« Reply #1329 on: October 15, 2019, 11:46:58 am »

Coalition talks in Vorarlberg are much faster than the ones for the new federal government:

https://vorarlberg.orf.at/stories/3017280

After the state election on Sunday, Gov. Wallner (VP) talked with Greens, FP, SP and NEOS today and said after the meetings that in-depth talks will be held with the Greens, starting on Thursday.

So, it's 100% certain that VP-Greens will continue there.
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« Reply #1330 on: October 15, 2019, 11:57:35 am »

All remaining absentee ballots have been counted today for the Vorarlberg state election.

The final results:

43.53% VP (+1.73)
18.89% Greens (+1.75)
13.93% FP (-9.49)
  9.46% SP (+0.69)
  8.51% NEOS (+1.62)
  1.86% HAK (+1.86)
  1.50% XI (+1.50)
  0.89% Wandel (+0.89)
  0.69% WIR (+0.05)
  0.34% M (-0.05)
  0.26% CP (-0.23)
  0.14% GILT (+0.14)

Turnout: 61.41% (-2.90)

Seats (36):

17 VP (+1)
  7 Greens (+1)
  5 FP (-4)
  4 SP (+1)
  3 NEOS (+1)

https://orf.at/wahl/vorarlberg19/#ergebnisse/80000

http://apps.vorarlberg.at/wahlen/wahl/LT?id=LT_2019-10-13
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« Reply #1331 on: October 16, 2019, 10:38:49 am »

The results of the federal election on September 29 were certified today by the FEC:

https://wahl19.bmi.gv.at

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« Reply #1332 on: October 16, 2019, 11:53:29 pm »

The VP will hold in-depth coalition exploration talks with the SP today.

VP-team:

   

 

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000109886925/die-staerken-und-schwaechen-der-tuerkisen-verhandler

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https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000109971820/plus-und-minus-der-roten-sondierer
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« Reply #1333 on: October 17, 2019, 10:33:08 am »

VP & SP said their exploration talks went surprisingly well today and that the atmosphere was pretty good.

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110011639/keine-weiteren-sondierungsgespraeche-spoe-will-nur-mehr-verhandeln
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« Reply #1334 on: October 17, 2019, 12:00:48 pm »

New 24 poll:

Greens tied with a record-low FP. The Greens are just 2% away from an all-time record-high (from what I know, they never polled higher than 16%).



https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/OeSTERREICH-Umfrage-Mehrheit-fuer-Tuerkis-Gruen/402201078
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« Reply #1335 on: October 17, 2019, 01:15:43 pm »

Please no grand coalition. There have been enough. The SP should do constructive opposition work and let the Greens show that they can put some meat on bone rather than just talking.
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« Reply #1336 on: October 17, 2019, 04:23:04 pm »

Please no grand coalition. There have been enough. The SP should do constructive opposition work and let the Greens show that they can put some meat on bone rather than just talking.

The SPO only has to look at Germany and the continued surge of the Greens post-election to know their fate if they enter govt.
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« Reply #1337 on: October 18, 2019, 10:59:29 am »

Today, the VP delegation once again talked with the Greens for 4 hours and then commented that the talks/climate between the delegations were "very positive" and "should continue".


Source: APA/Fohringer


Source: APA/Fohringer


Source: APA/Fohringer

Now, the VP is in talks with NEOS.


Source: APA/Fohringer

https://www.kleinezeitung.at/politik/innenpolitik/5708079/Koalition_Gruene-nach-Gespraechen-zufrieden-jetzt-sind-die-Neos-dran

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Also, 6 parties will be on the Styria state election ballot on Nov. 24:

VP, SP, FP, Greens, NEOS and KP.

https://steiermark.orf.at/stories/3017859
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« Reply #1338 on: October 18, 2019, 12:47:26 pm »

Breaking News:

After the FP (took themselves out of the game), Kurz has now also ruled out more exploration talks with the SP, saying they still seem to be too divided internally.

But Kurz and the VP have scheduled another round of extensive talks with Greens and NEOS next week (Monday, Tuesday & Friday. On Wednesday, the new parliament will have its inaugural session).

It is possible that Kurz also wants to take NEOS on board as coalition partner, because all 3 parties gained in the election.

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110069939/kurz-vertieft-sich-in-gruene-und-neos
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« Reply #1339 on: October 18, 2019, 02:29:51 pm »

Liste Pilz/Jetzts days are numbered.

They gave their final press conference today and announced that they still have 1.4 million of public party funding left - which they will repay to the state.

They hope that most of their parliamentary staff will be immediately taken in and hired by the Greens, which they have signaled they will. The Greens will need at least 70 staff for their new parliament group, which will take office next Wednesday. If they get 3-4 cabinet posts in a future government, they will even need more staff.

The party List Pilz will not be dissolved for now, but will also not be active any longer - such as in state elections.
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« Reply #1340 on: October 18, 2019, 11:30:23 pm »

The FP has decided to delete the Strache Facebook page with 800.000 followers, after Strache set an ultimatum for Friday night and threatened the party with a long court battle over admin rights.

Strache argues that the page belongs to him, the party says it is their page.

Facebook recently dealt a blow to the FP, arguing that the Strache page cannot be merged with the FP/Hofer/Kickl page, as only pages with similar names and content can be merged.

The Strache page has always been extremely important for the FP because of its coverage of 800.000 followers, much larger than for any other party.

https://m.facebook.com/HCStrache/

https://orf.at/stories/3141367/

Strache also has a private Facebook page, but with only 50.000 followers so far.
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« Reply #1341 on: October 18, 2019, 11:53:15 pm »

One thing that has not really been mentioned by the media so far, but which could be a major factor for the creation of an VP-Greens-NEOS coalition:

Robert Luschnik, member of the NEOS exploration team, worked more than 25 years for the Greens before joining NEOS this year as their new general secretary and campaign manager.

He was the Green parliamentary group coordinator for several years, then their general secretary and worked to elect President VdB.

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110015525/die-skills-und-spills-der-pinken-sondierer
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« Reply #1342 on: October 19, 2019, 04:19:46 am »

The weekly "profil" magazine poll shows priorities of voters for the coming government:

27% environmental/climate protection
24% immigration/integration/asylum
24% tax reform/tax cuts
11% economic and labour market measures/unemployment
  3% financing of the army

I guess "profil" only asked those 5 broader topics and not more, because those are the ones that were talked about most during the campaign.

The interesting thing is that while 75% of Green voters rate the environment as the most important issue to tackle for the new government, only 18% of VP voters say so. VP voters' most important topic still is immigration/integration/asylum with 31%. FP voters of course want immigration "solved" (52%), while SP and NEOS voters rank the environment first, followed by tax reform and tax cuts and immigration only 3rd.

https://www.profil.at/oesterreich/umfrage-kluft-oevp-gruen-umwelt-klimaschutz-11180247
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« Reply #1343 on: October 19, 2019, 06:31:53 am »

ATV has polled the electability of a "List Strache":

  4% would definitely vote for such a list
12% would probably vote for it
10% would probably not vote for it
67% would definitely not vote for it

Among FP-voters only:

14% would definitely vote for such a list
35% would probably vote for it
19% would probably not vote for it
24% would definitely not vote for it

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« Reply #1344 on: October 20, 2019, 12:40:37 am »

So, the 5 new parliamentary groups will assemble for the 1st time at their quarters on Tuesday for work meetings and the new parliament will convene on Wednesday for its inaugural session.

The seating order has now been set as well.

SP > Greens > NEOS > FP > VP

39% are women (58% Greens, 48% SP, 40% NEOS, 37% VP, 17% FP)

29% are new MPs (89% Greens*, 47% NEOS, 23% SP, 16% VP, 7% FP)

* Theoretically, 100% of Greens should be "new" - but Kogler, Maurer and Zadic have already been MPs before.

Philippa Strache has until Wednesday to decide if she'll take her seat or not. Ahead of the meeting, the parliamentary clerk will issue entrance cards to parliament for the new MPs to serve. Until then, she will have to decide. If she takes the seat, she will sit behind the SP as an independent MP (thrown out from the FP group). If not, Markus Tschank will replace her.

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Source: BMI

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« Reply #1345 on: October 20, 2019, 02:28:32 am »

The youngest MPs will be 24 (1x NEOS, 1x VP).

The oldest - and this is the most interesting part - is just 65.

Which means that among 183 members of parliament, nobody will be older than 65.

Compare that with the US for example, which has a young society but mostly old people (65+) in Congress and running for President.

The Greens have a migrant share of 25% among their MPs, which is funny because among 26 people that would be 6.5 people.

I'm only counting 6:

* Meri Disoski (Macedonian origin)
* Faika El-Nagashi (Egyptian/Hungarian)
* Ewa Ernst-Dziedzic (Poland)
* Bedrana Ribo (Bosnia)
* Alma Zadic (Bosnia)
* Sleyman Zorba (Turkey)

The SP has 2/40 with a migrant background: 2 women (Turkey)

NEOS has 1/15: Korean-Indian

The FP has nobody with a migrant background and there's no info for the VP MPs (but looking at their names, I guess none).
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« Reply #1346 on: October 20, 2019, 02:46:23 pm »

This is good:



Out of the FP family album: BFFs.
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« Reply #1347 on: October 20, 2019, 02:57:22 pm »
« Edited: October 20, 2019, 03:00:28 pm by Omega21 »

The youngest MPs will be 24 (1x NEOS, 1x VP).

The oldest - and this is the most interesting part - is just 65.

Which means that among 183 members of parliament, nobody will be older than 65.

Compare that with the US for example, which has a young society but mostly old people (65+) in Congress and running for President.

The Greens have a migrant share of 25% among their MPs, which is funny because among 26 people that would be 6.5 people.

I'm only counting 6:

* Meri Disoski (Macedonian origin)
* Faika El-Nagashi (Egyptian/Hungarian)
* Ewa Ernst-Dziedzic (Poland)
* Bedrana Ribo (Bosnia)
* Alma Zadic (Bosnia)
* Sleyman Zorba (Turkey)

The SP has 2/40 with a migrant background: 2 women (Turkey)

NEOS has 1/15: Korean-Indian

The FP has nobody with a migrant background and there's no info for the VP MPs (but looking at their names, I guess none).


Do you know why no other nationalities are represented? Most seem to be Bosniak/Turkish.

Not that I mind, just asking why they are not pursuing a representative number according to the population (like 50% of MPs being women).
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« Reply #1348 on: October 20, 2019, 03:05:50 pm »

The youngest MPs will be 24 (1x NEOS, 1x VP).

The oldest - and this is the most interesting part - is just 65.

Which means that among 183 members of parliament, nobody will be older than 65.

Compare that with the US for example, which has a young society but mostly old people (65+) in Congress and running for President.

The Greens have a migrant share of 25% among their MPs, which is funny because among 26 people that would be 6.5 people.

I'm only counting 6:

* Meri Disoski (Macedonian origin)
* Faika El-Nagashi (Egyptian/Hungarian)
* Ewa Ernst-Dziedzic (Poland)
* Bedrana Ribo (Bosnia)
* Alma Zadic (Bosnia)
* Sleyman Zorba (Turkey)

The SP has 2/40 with a migrant background: 2 women (Turkey)

NEOS has 1/15: Korean-Indian

The FP has nobody with a migrant background and there's no info for the VP MPs (but looking at their names, I guess none).


Do you know why no other nationalities are represented? Most seem to be Bosniak/Turkish/Albanian.

Not that I mind, just asking why they are not pursuing a representative number according to the population (like 50% of MPs being women).

This is mostly a right-wing problem, as you can see from my numbers. The VP usually has a few, the FP basically never.

I guess the FP doesnt want representatives with a migrant background, unless they have a German or Serb background.

Among Austrian citizens, ca. 10% have a migrant background. +16% actual foreigners in the country who cannot vote.

So if we just take into account the citizens with a migrant background, then the Greens have above average shares, while SP and NEOS are largely around the average.

The reason why most MPs with a migrant background are Turks, Balkan folks or Eastern Europeans is very obvious.
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« Reply #1349 on: October 20, 2019, 03:45:32 pm »

The youngest MPs will be 24 (1x NEOS, 1x VP).

The oldest - and this is the most interesting part - is just 65.

Which means that among 183 members of parliament, nobody will be older than 65.

Compare that with the US for example, which has a young society but mostly old people (65+) in Congress and running for President.

The Greens have a migrant share of 25% among their MPs, which is funny because among 26 people that would be 6.5 people.

I'm only counting 6:

* Meri Disoski (Macedonian origin)
* Faika El-Nagashi (Egyptian/Hungarian)
* Ewa Ernst-Dziedzic (Poland)
* Bedrana Ribo (Bosnia)
* Alma Zadic (Bosnia)
* Sleyman Zorba (Turkey)

The SP has 2/40 with a migrant background: 2 women (Turkey)

NEOS has 1/15: Korean-Indian

The FP has nobody with a migrant background and there's no info for the VP MPs (but looking at their names, I guess none).


Do you know why no other nationalities are represented? Most seem to be Bosniak/Turkish/Albanian.

Not that I mind, just asking why they are not pursuing a representative number according to the population (like 50% of MPs being women).

This is mostly a right-wing problem, as you can see from my numbers. The VP usually has a few, the FP basically never.

I guess the FP doesnt want representatives with a migrant background, unless they have a German or Serb background.

Among Austrian citizens, ca. 10% have a migrant background. +16% actual foreigners in the country who cannot vote.

So if we just take into account the citizens with a migrant background, then the Greens have above average shares, while SP and NEOS are largely around the average.

The reason why most MPs with a migrant background are Turks, Balkan folks or Eastern Europeans is very obvious.

I guess you're right. In terms of numbers Turks and Serbs share 2nd spot after Germans, but probably since Muslims usually align more with parties who are in favour of open-door policies they are more represented within them.

As far as I know, the FP doesn't really even have any Germans or Serbs in their ranks, they are still pretty Vanilla, although it will be interesting to see Stache's picks if he decides to form his own Party/List.

Interesting times are ahead, for better or worse I guess.



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